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Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Ambient / 1ATM Q?



Hi, Paul - to the best of my knowledge, I'm the first one to design the concept into a submarine.  I just made an intuitive leap from lung to cockpit and realized that the regs don't care how the delta-P is generated.  All they care about is their diaphrams being pushed in.
 
M. Child will probably have a simple oral/nasal mask for breathing.  At least initially.  I probably will be using a cabin dehumidifier, but not a CO2 scrubber.  No constant flow of any kind unless it comes from the blower in the hatch while transiting.
 
Rick L
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Sent: Friday, January 20, 2006 2:59 PM
Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Ambient / 1ATM Q?

Joe, right, they wouldn't do anything, would they. 

I'm imagining the body of the second stage mounted outside the cabin (at ambient pressure) and the mouthpiece plumbed into the cabin.  Play with the inhale sensitivity on the second stage and it may keep your cabin pressure regulated.  Add a bank of them for reliability and airflow and then maybe add CO2 absorption or a constant flow air freshening system... 

I expect Rick or someone else could describe how people have actually built these into an ambient sub. ??

Paul

On 1/20/06, Joseph Perkel <joeperkel@hotmail.com> wrote:

Paul, Rick

We are talking about second stage scuba regulators which are triggered by the negative pressure of inhalation correct?

When this is in your mouth there is a large gradient between your inhalation trigger and the surrounding pressure and this delivers the on demand flow.

If the regulators are strictly inside the cabin with you, how do they know what's happening outside? Unless there is some sort of differential membrane trigger such as the one Chip described. As Rick had described, I am assuming this bank of regulators is just sitting there in the cabin with you, and absent a differential sensor, I don't see a trigger for the flow.

Joe