From: Bob Duncan <katsurencho@yahoo.com>
Sent: Apr 24, 2006 2:52 PM
To: personal_submersibles@psubs.org
Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Re: more on the -Navy minisub program
cancelled
Having been a government employee for an excessive amount of time. I
usually refer to them as "Card Carrying Ignorant, Morons from Outer
Space".
They are not from around here, cause they for sure don't know what's
going on.
"Shawn H." <gambit7@bellsouth.net> wrote:
Idiots our government is.
WHY reinvent the wheel??
All they had to do was order a few of the new German 212 subs and be done
with it. They're the quietest, most deadly subs in the world, and they're
also some of the cheapest to make.
Honestly, I'd like to give our military a bit more credit, and part of the
reason they discontinued the program was due to the new German AIP subs.
No
point in wasting time and money when there's something better. I at least
HOPE this is what they were thinking. BUT, heck those new German subs are
old news really.
btw, if u want a bit of info on the sub:
http://www.naval-technology.com/projects/type_212/
----- Original Message -----
From: "Adam Lawrence"
To:
Sent: Saturday, April 22, 2006 11:25 PM
Subject: RE: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Re: more on the -Navy minisub program
cancelled
About time they discontinued that!
Adam
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-personal_submersibles@psubs.org
[mailto:owner-personal_submersibles@psubs.org] On Behalf Of John
Gaertner
Sent: Saturday, April 22, 2006 6:45 PM
To: personal_submersibles@psubs.org
Subject: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Re: more on the -Navy minisub program cancelled
Here is a bit more on this very dissappointing news story from the RIC
Times dispatch .....
John Gaertner
Mini-sub bugs: noisy, shaky and years late
On the other hand, it only cost five times more than expected
BY JAMES W. CRAWLEY
MEDIA GENERAL NEWS SERVICE
Thursday, December 1, 2005
WASHINGTON -- What costs $446 million, makes noise, shakes too much and
is years behind schedule?
A mini-sub being built for Tampa's Special Operations Command.
The problems are so great, the command announced yesterday, that it is
stopping further tests on the prototype, delaying the next two and
re-examining the program.
"The boat wasn't ready from a reliability point of view," said Vice Adm.
Eric Olson, the deputy special-operations commander.
The 65-foot-long submersible, called the Advanced SEAL Delivery System,
is designed to carry Navy commandos, riding piggyback on a nuclear
submarine. During a mission, the mini-sub would drop off eight commandos
close to shore and pick them up later.
So far, one has been built. The original batteries did not work as
expected. New batteries have not been fully tested.
The vessel was noisier than planned -- bad news for a submarine. Designs
were changed to muffle the sound, and now the mini-sub vibrates too
much.
The subs were originally expected to cost $80 million each; the first
one alone has cost $446 million.
A Northrop Grumman subsidiary in Annapolis, Md., has the construction
contract, but had no experience building submarines. A subcontractor
built the first hull. Others are to be built at the company's Northrop
Grumman Newport News shipyard.
A company news release yesterday said the firm was disappointed with the
delay, but improvements to the prototype would make it "an even more
valuable asset to the war fighter."
James W. Crawley reports from Washington for Media General News Service.
Email: jcrawley@mediageneral.com.
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