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Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Sitting High



Joey,
          Your question: " Why don't you just store it at a harbor or somewhere?"    In a perfect world that would be the ideal thing to do,  but where I live, California,  you have all these restrictions everywhere you go.  If asked the slip rental people if I could keep my 50' submarine in their facility I'm sure they are going to find all kinds of reasons why I can't do it.  .....Like our lawyer says we can't let you because our insurance doesn't cover submarines etc..
 
  Another thing that may be a concern, and if anyone has any knowledge on this I would be interested to know,  is in a strong storm would it be possible that a very large sub could tear a dock apart very easily?   If it was in a well protected harbor maybe there would be no problem but this is something I have no knowledge about. 
 
   The sub would be able to stay in the water for extented periods of time without any detrimental effects on the hull, aside from general cleaning. 
 
Brian Cox
----- Original Message -----
From: Joey C.
Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2006 21:28
Subject: RE: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Sitting High

Pardon the amateur question?

If it was a dry sub, would you have to raise it every time you dived just to get in? If so, wouldn?t it be just as practical to have it stored somewhere else?

 

My sub will have a rig attached to it so it would take a simple cable to pull it onto a trailer and off you go? all of this, of course, because mine is going to be a fairly small contraption, compared to some of the sea faring monsters I?ve seen on this site! :-O

 

I guess a lot of it has to do with diving frequencies ? If its just one weekend out of the year for a day or two, I assume it would be cheaper just to rent a rig and trailer, and tow it out for the weekend, versus paying a high dock fee or having to leave it laying shivers on the bottom of the sea for so long.

 

Also, I wouldn?t park it on the bottom simply because I wouldn?t want my ship being exposed for that long? don?t know of any problems, but certainly don?t want to take chances. And there are a lot of crooks out there, who are willing to screw up your operation, or just simply flat out raise your boat and ?salvage? it to their warehouse for free parts,etc.

 

Once again, sorry about the amateur nature of my posting..

 

-Joey

 


From: owner-personal_submersibles@psubs.org [mailto:owner-personal_submersibles@psubs.org] On Behalf Of Brian Cox
Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2006 8:59 PM
To: personal_submersibles@psubs.org
Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Sitting High

 

Jay,

        Note I said "in a safe area".  I'm thinking off of the Summerland area.   It's true we do get some bad storms in the Winter time but with a cylindrical shape resting on the bottom I would think the worst that could happen would be it could become partially buried.  Would you be willing to entertain that idea without accepting it?

 

Brian

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2006 18:51

Subject: RE: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Sitting High

 

Brian,

Before mooring your boat on the bottom as you suggest, you aught to check how quickly things are destroyed on the bottom by the powerful storms you have on the West Coast.  I have seen several relatively new wrecks in very good condition decimated off of the coasts of San Diego and Santa Barbara in 75 to 100 fsw.

R/Jay

 

Respectfully,

Jay K. Jeffries

Andros Is., Bahamas

 

It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it.

  - Aristotle

 

 

 

 

 

 

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-personal_submersibles@psubs.org [mailto:owner-personal_submersibles@psubs.org] On Behalf Of Brian Cox
Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2006 9:29 PM
To: personal_submersibles@psubs.org
Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Sitting High

 

Exactly,  this is a serious delema.   I was just down at our local Harbor, Ventura CA, and was inquireing about a few things, namely cost of boat yard space...$3.00/ ft / day  !!!  also the overhead crawling crane capacity...165 tons   Trying to calculate the weight of a 50' concrete sub  8' dia .  does anyone know the capacity of those semi trailers?

 

Once is is in the water it could be kept on the bottom off shore in a safe area.

 

Brian