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RE: [PSUBS-MAILIST] My current submarine design: Specs and picture



Christopher,
 
choose the hemi tank heads the same thickness as the cylinder.  Even the the hemi will be much stronger than the cylinder and act as a strong frame.
 
10-20 KW seems very much. unlees you want to go very fast.
drivline is expesive too. I use just 1 KW as main drive.
 
Emile


Van: owner-personal_submersibles@psubs.org [mailto:owner-personal_submersibles@psubs.org] Namens Christopher Graca
Verzonden: zondag 17 juni 2012 17:13
Aan: personal_submersibles@psubs.org
Onderwerp: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] My current submarine design: Specs and picture

depth: 1400' fresh water. 

Yea, the hemispherical ends are overbuilt right now. I'm going to revisit the thickness after i read through the ABS and other pressure vessel standards some more. The overall pressure vessel length is 10' 4" outside measurements. The program is currently stating that the whole sub (with all parts being assigned correct mass properties for steel, acrylic, derlin, etc) is around 6,300lbs. the CoG for the assembly is about 72.6" back from the front of the pressure vessel. I still have many parts remaining for me to design and model, so this number is going to change a good amount. the 8,000lb number is just a guess, and it might be a bit on the high end. No buoyancy calcs have been done yet, but I will be starting on those sometime next week.

-Chris



On Sat, Jun 16, 2012 at 8:29 PM, Hugh Fulton <hc.fulton@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi Chris,  Nice Design.  What depth?  5/8” shell does not seem to fit with 1” hemispherical ends.  You might re-check.

Other observation is that you have a lot of weight aft and either your batteries may need to be moved forward to balance or buoyancy added aft.  That is a fair bit of weight for 40” diameter shell. What is your pressure vessel length?

Have you done buoyancy calcs and balance moments yet?  Hugh.

 

 

From: owner-personal_submersibles@psubs.org [mailto:owner-personal_submersibles@psubs.org] On Behalf Of Christopher Graca
Sent: Sunday, 17 June 2012 5:49 a.m.
To: personal_submersibles@psubs.org
Subject: [PSUBS-MAILIST] My current submarine design: Specs and picture

 

Here are the current specifications of my design as well as a picture showing the current modeling progress. Some parts have interference with others, but those are being ironed out as i progress with modeling.

 

I still need to purchase the handbook of acrylics and other standards to nail down specific dimensions for viewport lenses, housings, pressure vessel, etc. so these numbers are just estimates right now. Pressure vessel was designed based on excel calculator obtained from the psubs site.

 

Length:

20'

 

Beam:

3' 10"

 

Est. Weight:

TBD, probably around 8,000lbs

 

Trim:

internal soft or external hard tanks TBD

 

Air System:

HP air; 3 externally mounted 3000psi 100 cu ft tanks. Shall be piped in 2 independent banks for redundancy.

 

Life Support:

-Externally mounted O2 tanks . Shall be piped in 2 separate banks for redundancy.

-CO2 Scrubber

 

MBTs:

4 soft annular saddle tanks. Tanks shall be sealed to pressure vessel as well as have straps on both ends. A supplemental forward soft ballast tank will also be in the nose.

 

Pressure hull:

40" OD, 5/8" thick

24" OD Conning tower

Internal T stiffeners. 24" apart

1" hemispherical heads.

plate thru-hulls

 

Propulsion:

1 10-20kW (TBD) DC motor to drive main prop

2 fixed bow thrusters

1 vertical fixed thruster

 

Control Surfaces:

Tail dive planes

Rudder

Foreward Dive planes

 

Power

48V main propulsion motor

24V vertical and bow thrusters

24V lights, nav, etc.

 

Viewing:

Conning tower Acrylic Dome

2x side viewports 6" internal viewing

1x forward viewport 60 deg downward angle. 10" internal viewing

 

External:

Molded fiberglass or some other type of plastic/composite to achieve a streamlined shape. parts will mounted to an external structure, and also act as service panels.

 

Batteries:

Now this one I'm running into snags with. I would like to have external pressure compensated batteries, but i cant seem to find much info an compensating AGMs. The busby book gave some good info, and I saw a few white papers regarding it, but besides that cant find much.

 

Emergency:

Drop weights planned.

Possible jettisonable batteries a possibility.

 

 

 

 

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