[Member-Forum] PC 2014 - PSUBS Convention 2014

Mon Feb 24 03:15:58 EST 2014

Hi Joe,
that was just one of 5 Shark videos I took. My battery ran out
There were 5 or 6 Lemon Sharks there & Black Tip Reef Sharks, 
but the one that did most of the circling was about 11ft.
When I first descended I nearly landed on top of the lot of them.
I've read that the feeding can modify their behavior & make them more aggressive.
It stands to reason that they would start associating humans with a good feed, & probably
would be a little disappointed if they turned up without anything. Also they are going
to get more bold as time goes by.
I might have been kicking to get away from that burly pot. That belonged to the Shark.
There were fixed moorings in place so our boat wasn't anchoring & destroying any coral.

Alan

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 From: Joe Perkel <josephperkel at yahoo.com>
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Alan,

Some interesting behavior observations here. It seems to me that you were filming midwater with your companions mostly in contact with the bottom. As a result, the shark seems to approach you closer below than laterally to your dive buddies, giving them a wider berth and you a better shot. Looks like a female, I didn't see claspers? I did note you kicking away on your back a bit at one point to open some distance.

It looks like she's taking a non-aggressive casual swim through looking for handouts while staying close to the bottom. Several more are visible in the fringes. Was it
 the same individual making several passes? Also, what was dangling a collection bag, feed, or chum?

We're making quite the impact on nature, I've had sharks pass by with no indication that they were the least bit interested, but this looks like repetitive behavior. I read
 recently that Red Sea reefs have taken up to 50% damage in the past decade due to tourist sport diving, that's astonishing!

Perhaps as divers we should start to boycott operations that manipulate behaviors, and don't use moorings. Insist more upon one another a midwater "image without contact" approach like you demonstrate here. Start talking about these issues in blogs and forums in order to force a more "Green"approach to commerce upon the sport dive industry.

Joe 

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 From:  Douglas Suhr <spiritofcalypso at gmail.com>; 
To:  PSUBS Member Discussion Group <member-forum at psubs.org>; 
Subject:  Re: [Member-Forum] PC 2014 - PSUBS Convention 2014 
Sent:  Mon, Feb 24, 2014 1:09:02 AM 

Alan, awesome video man! That must have been really exciting. I have to say I'm with Hank though, I would rather be in a steel hull with those sea beasts around me.  

Scott, sounds good, throw me some dates when you can and perhaps we could hook up this spring in the Keys. Summersville Lake in WV  sounds fun and depending on when, count me in. I really want to check out Trustworthy and of course I would enjoy seeing Alec and Snoopy as well. ~ Douglas S.  

On Sun, Feb 23, 2014 at 7:05 PM, Joe Perkel <josephperkel at yahoo.com> wrote:

That's a nice environment for diving among reef dwellers. Where it gets dicey, is with the pelagics, whites, tigers, mako and the like. 
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>We get the occasional nasty wandering in from the Gulf Stream, not too often, but on occasion.  
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>Wish I was there, that was what 120' or better visibility? Where's the fans and branch corals? The bottom looks picked clean!!
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>Joe
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>On Feb 23, 2014, at 5:10 PM, hank pronk <hanker_20032000 at yahoo.ca> wrote:
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>Alan,
>>You are more brave than I am, I would want a submarine wrapped around me with that shark swimming about.
>>Hank
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>>On Sunday, February 23, 2014 12:58:30 PM, swaters <swaters at waters-ks.com> wrote:
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>>Douglas,
>>I am not sure yet. I will try to get something nailed down and get back to you. Alec was talking about some lake diving in West Virginia too, so not for certian yet.
>>Thanks,
>>Scott Waters
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>>Sent from my U.S. Cellular© Smartphone
>>Alan James <alanlindsayjames at yahoo.com> wrote:
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>>Hi Douglas,
>>thanks for that very kind offer. I think I will be grounded for a little
>>while though, after getting over for the UI conference.
>>I recommend your offer of hospitality to anyone else who wasn't at the last Psub conference.
>>You certainly have a great set up there.
>>Here's a link to a shark dive video I took in Moorea, French Polynesia.
>>The movie is a bit budget. I think I need to hand it to Alec to put some "Jaws" music on it.
>>They feed the Sharks to bring them round. The biggest was about 11ft, the video doesn't
>>do him justice as he was an awesome sight under water.
>>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AtDgW1w_3RI
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>>Alan
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>>From: Douglas Suhr <spiritofcalypso at gmail.com>
>>To: PSUBS Member Discussion Group <member-forum at psubs.org> 
>>Sent: Sunday, February 23, 2014 3:25 PM
>>Subject: Re: [Member-Forum] PC 2014 - PSUBS Convention 2014
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>>Scott, do you have any tentative dates for the Keys yet? We just got home from the Keys last week. It was a beautiful stay with great weather (with the exception of a few rain showers thrown in for the vegetation). We are thinking about another run in April/May, but not sure yet. If you want to hook up for some diving let me know. 
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>>This offer extends to everyone / anyone who can get their butt and sub down to Islamorada! ~ Douglas S.   
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>>On Sat, Feb 22, 2014 at 11:15 AM, Joe Perkel <josephperkel at yahoo.com> wrote:
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>>A very magnanimous offer Vance that I will keep in mind. Thanks!
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>>>Joe
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>>>From:  vbra676539 at aol.com <vbra676539 at aol.com>; 
>>>To:  <member-forum at psubs.org>; 
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>>>And if the West Virginia deal comes up, the offer stands. 24 hours on the road there and back with twice that in submarines in the middle. Can't be all bad. 
>>>Vance
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>>>I'll be kicking myself over Islamorada for years to come Vance. As I recall, I needed the call-in for a school event during that time period. Psubs will be back, Florida is too hard to pass up for too long.
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>>>In my un-encumbered days I would have been to several by now, I would have made an effort for Vancouver that's for sure. Next Florida meet will likely again be in the Keys, I'll be hard pressed to miss it again.
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>>>Joe 
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>>>From:  vbra676539 at aol.com <vbra676539 at aol.com>; 
>>>To:  <member-forum at psubs.org>; 
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>>>Better yet, Joe, pack a bag and get Alec to take you down to have a look. The lake is a mere 865 miles from my house. Twelve hours. We'll split the driving and gas. Nothing to it. And besides, it's your own fault. Islamorada is what...two hours from you? The logic says that if you can't do a close trip, then you have to do the long one as penance. And Snoopy is cool. Think Swiss army knife with ballast tanks. You'll like it. Very instructive for when you get back to the design files.  
>>>Vance
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>>>To: member-forum <member-forum at psubs.org>
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>>>These lakes and ponds can hold surprises and remind me of a find here in Titusville Florida some years back where human soft brain tissue was recovered from a skull dating to 6,000 BC.
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>>>To put that in perspective, Kufu's pyramid (The Great Pyramid of Giza) is relatively new construction dating to about 2,500 BC.
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>>>So keep your eyes open down there, you just might finds Scrat's Ice Age   
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