[Member-Forum] PC 2014 - PSUBS Convention 2014

[Steve McQueen]

Jim, thanks for offering to help.

I think for me a "diving" convention is a more value add.

To go back and answer Jon's original call for input:
I prefer a "wet" convention
location is not a big consideration for me but it is nice to be close to an
airport. I do like warmer/clear water.
Held during warmer weather (for that location)
80% attendance likelihood

Steve


On Fri, Jan 31, 2014 at 11:58 AM, <jimtoddpsub at aol.com> wrote:

>    One scenario considered was to have the convention in St. Louis and
> make arrangements for sub-diving either pre- or post-convention at Table
> Rock Lake or Bull Shoals in the southwest corner of Missouri.  The
> considerations were these:
>
> *St. Louis*:
> 1.  Centrally located in the US.  We all love the coasts, but it can be a
> long, expensive trip for those not from that side of the country for
> attendees and any "imported" speakers.
> 2.  Excellent airline hub.  Flight schedules are generally convenient, and
> reasonably priced hotels with good meeting facilities  are almost within
> walking distance of the airport.  No need for rental cars and driving
> time.  I've loved the prior conventions, however ground transportation from
> airport to convention has been a logistical consideration.  Obviously this
> isn't a big deal for those who are driving to the convention instead of
> flying.
> 3.  No sub diving sites anywhere near the convention.  There are some
> interesting scuba sites.
> 4.  Great side tour to go to the top of the Gateway Arch.  Quite an
> engineering marvel.
> 5.  Plans don't depend on the weather.
>
> *Table Rock/Bull Shoals Lakes:*
> 1.  Good diving facilities with reasonably good viz at the right time of
> the year.  I need to check with the dive master regarding specifics
> and best time to avoid algae bloom, etc.
> 2.  Really crappy airline service and schedules.  The only airports near
> the region are Springfield, Missouri, Little Rock, Arkansas, and Tulsa,
> Oklahoma.  None is a hub.  Little Rock and Tulsa are each about 3.5 to 4
> hours driving time from Branson.
>
> Bottom line:  St. Louis is logistically very clean, convenient, and
> efficient, and we could pack in a lot of tech time and presentations.  Subs
> would be for static display and examination only except for those who can
> go to the lakes.  The lake location is great for those who are driving
> anyway instead of flying.
>
> Question #1:  How many would come to a centrally located convention with
> easy logistics but no sub diving?
> Question #2.  How many would come to a centrally located lake convention
> with difficult airline access?
>
> Guys, we really need to hear from you.  If there is sufficient interest,
> I'll take a trip to either location (or both) to scout it further.  However
> there is a lot of work that goes into planning and organizing a convention,
> and it's very difficult to do it in the last few weeks before the
> convention.  If there is not enough interest in the above, that leaves us
> with East Coast, West Coast, Gulf Coast, or Great Lakes (Muskegon?).  I'm
> not available to work any of those locations.
>
> Best regards,
> Jim
>  -----Original Message-----
> From: swaters <swaters at waters-ks.com>
> To: PSUBS Member Discussion Group <member-forum at psubs.org>
> Sent: Fri, Jan 31, 2014 9:13 am
> Subject: Re: [Member-Forum] PC 2014 - PSUBS Convention 2014
>
>  It does have deep water and fairly clear. It has inexpensive hotels and
> also has air fill stations for scuba. Only problem is the closest airport
> is a ways. You are right on the lake is Corps of Engineers. I'm in your nic
> of the woods Jon. I am in Philly, PA getting ready to hop on a plane.
> Thanks,
> Scott Waters
>
>
>
>
>  Sent from my U.S. Cellular© Smartphone
>
> Jon Wallace <jonw at psubs.org> wrote:
>
> Scott, perhaps you can remind us about Table Rock Lake and whether it's a
> suitable location.  I seem to recall you said it had deep water available
> but that it was also somewhat remote.
>
>
>
> On 1/31/2014 9:49 AM, swaters wrote:
>
> I would prefer a diving conference. I will attend with Trustworthy. I will
> not be able to attend June1-July 15. Any other time should work ok. I have
> been unable to focus on doing any planning on the psubs conference due to a
> explosion of commitments for work with new stores. I would be willing to
> help as much as possible. I would vote for Summersville Lake, WV. I would
> be bringing my wife Katyand probably 2 or so divers with me. I would
> volunteer the use of all my equipment as well.
> Thanks,
> Scott Waters
>
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