<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=iso-8859-1"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;">Hi All,<div>As you have asked for response from the members, this is my 2 pennies worth from the English side of a very large Submarine dive site the (Atlantic Ocean).</div><div>1. Wet</div><div>2. Late Summer</div><div>3. Convention and Dive site together, makes no difference to me as I am flying a long way whenever the location is!!!!!!!!!!!</div><div>4. 80% chance of attending if it is a combined location. 40% Chance of attending one or both if separate locations.</div><div>I hope you get it all sort as I would love to attend as a new boy just starting to build my submarine.</div><div><div>Kind regards from London England</div><div><div><br></div>Phil Christodolou<br>+ 44 (0)7768 233466<br><br>Alistage Ltd.<br>Earls Farm, Earls Lane, South Mimms, Herts. EN6 3LT<br>Tel: 01707 653 245<br><div><a href="http://www.alistage.co.uk/">www.alistage.co.uk</a></div></div></div><div><br><div><div>On 31 Jan 2014, at 16:58, <<a href="mailto:jimtoddpsub@aol.com">jimtoddpsub@aol.com</a>> <<a href="mailto:jimtoddpsub@aol.com">jimtoddpsub@aol.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"><font size="2" face="arial">
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<div><font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="3" style="background-color: transparent;">One scenario considered was to have the convention in St. Louis and make arrangements for sub-diving either pre- or post-convention at Table Rock Lake or Bull Shoals in the southwest corner of Missouri. The considerations were these:</font></div>
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<div><font size="3"><strong>St. Louis</strong>: </font></div>
<div><font size="3">1. Centrally located in the US. We all love the coasts, but it can be a long, expensive trip for those not from that side of the country for attendees and any "imported" speakers.</font></div>
<div><font size="3">2. Excellent airline hub. Flight schedules are generally convenient, and reasonably priced hotels with good meeting facilities are almost within walking <font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">distance</font> of the airport. No need for rental cars and driving time. I've loved the prior conventions, however ground transportation from airport to convention has been a logistical consideration. Obviously this isn't a big deal for those who are driving to the convention instead of flying.</font></div>
<div><font size="3">3. No sub diving sites anywhere near the convention. There are some interesting scuba sites.</font></div>
<div><font size="3">4. Great side tour to go to the top of the Gateway Arch. Quite an engineering marvel.</font></div>
<div><font size="3">5. Plans don't depend on the weather.</font></div>
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<div><font size="3"><strong>Table Rock/Bull Shoals Lakes:</strong></font></div>
<div><font size="3">1. Good diving facilities with reasonably good viz at the right time of the year. I need to check with the dive master regarding specifics and best time to avoid algae bloom, etc. </font></div>
<div><font size="3"><font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">2. Really crappy airline service and schedules. The only airports near the region are Springfield, Missouri, Little Rock, Arkansas, and Tulsa, Oklahoma</font>. None is a hub. Little Rock and Tulsa are each about 3.5 to 4 hours driving time from Branson.</font></div>
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<div><font size="3">Bottom line: St. Louis is logistically very clean, convenient, and efficient, and we could pack in a lot of tech time and presentations. Subs would be for static display and examination only except for those who can go to the lakes.<font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"> The lake location is great for those who are driving anyway instead of flying.</font></font></div>
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<div><font size="3">Question #1: How many would come to a centrally located convention with easy logistics but no sub diving?</font></div>
<div><font size="3">Question #2. How many would come to a centrally located lake convention with difficult airline access?</font></div>
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<div><font size="3">Guys, we really need to hear from you. If there is sufficient interest, I'll take a trip to either location (or both) to scout it further. However there is a lot of work that goes into planning and organizing a convention, and it's very difficult to do it in the last few weeks before the convention. If there is not enough interest in the above, that leaves us with East Coast, West Coast, Gulf Coast, or Great Lakes (Muskegon?). I'm not available to work any of those locations.</font></div>
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<div><font size="3">Best regards,</font></div>
<div><font size="3">Jim</font></div>
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From: swaters <<a href="mailto:swaters@waters-ks.com">swaters@waters-ks.com</a>><br>
To: PSUBS Member Discussion Group <<a href="mailto:member-forum@psubs.org">member-forum@psubs.org</a>><br>
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<div>It does have deep water and fairly clear. It has inexpensive hotels and also has air fill stations for scuba. Only problem is the closest airport is a ways. You are right on the lake is Corps of Engineers. I'm in your nic of the woods Jon. I am in Philly, PA getting ready to hop on a plane. </div>
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Jon Wallace <<a href="mailto:jonw@psubs.org">jonw@psubs.org</a>> wrote:<br>
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Scott, perhaps you can remind us about Table Rock Lake and whether
it's a suitable location. I seem to recall you said it had deep
water available but that it was also somewhat remote.<br>
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<div>I would prefer a diving conference. I will attend with
Trustworthy. I will not be able to attend June1-July 15. Any
other time should work ok. I have been unable to focus on doing
any planning on the psubs conference due to a explosion of
commitments for work with new stores. I would be willing to help
as much as possible. I would vote for Summersville Lake, WV. I
would be bringing my wife Katyand probably 2 or so divers with
me. I would volunteer the use of all my equipment as well. </div>
<div>Thanks,</div>
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