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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-GB link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Hi Jim<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Thanks, I’ll be adding the rest to the site with new text when I get some time plus the new projects, some of which are fun. I did find S102 as it happens but as the trail lead to a rather iffy politician in the Philippines I left it open on the web page. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Cheers<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Paul<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Member-Forum [mailto:member-forum-bounces@psubs.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>jimtoddpsub@aol.com<br><b>Sent:</b> 01 February 2014 13:51<br><b>To:</b> member-forum@psubs.org<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Member-Forum] PC 2014 - PSUBS Convention 2014<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>Good morning, Paul,</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>Welcome aboard. It's good to have you as a member. I visited your steel-fish web site. Some of the information I was already familiar with, but much of it was new and all of it was quite interesting. Best wishes in locating S102. We'll all look forward to meeting you.</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>Best regards,</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>Jim</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>-----Original Message-----<br>From: Paul Moorhouse <<a href="mailto:paul@steel-fish.com">paul@steel-fish.com</a>><br>To: 'PSUBS Member Discussion Group' <<a href="mailto:member-forum@psubs.org">member-forum@psubs.org</a>><br>Sent: Sat, Feb 1, 2014 6:18 am<br>Subject: Re: [Member-Forum] PC 2014 - PSUBS Convention 2014<o:p></o:p></span></p><div id="AOLMsgPart_2_c4324dfd-1984-4d1f-8d31-dc40630ee3f7"><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>Hi</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>As a new member It would be my first convention but like Phil I live in England so attendance is not guaranteed. <i> </i>I do work with my friends at Triton in Vero Beach so combining the trip would work. Really, where ever you decide to have it, I will do my best to attend. </span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'> </span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>Phil, we must have a pint of warm English beer to discuss our sad and incurable submarine addiction. </span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'> </span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>Looking forward to meeting you all</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>Regards</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>Paul Moorhouse</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>+44 7837 542878</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><a href="mailto:paul@steel-fish.com">paul@steel-fish.com</a></span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'> </span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'> </span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid windowtext 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm;border-color:currentColor currentColor'><div><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'> Member-Forum [<a href="mailto:member-forum-bounces@psubs.org?">mailto:member-forum-bounces@psubs.org</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Phil<br><b>Sent:</b> 31 January 2014 17:31<br><b>To:</b> PSUBS Member Discussion Group<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Member-Forum] PC 2014 - PSUBS Convention 2014</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>Hi All,<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>As you have asked for response from the members, this is my 2 pennies worth from the English side of a very large Submarine dive site the (Atlantic Ocean).<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>1. Wet<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>2. Late Summer<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>3. Convention and Dive site together, makes no difference to me as I am flying a long way whenever the location is!!!!!!!!!!!<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>4. 80% chance of attending if it is a combined location. 40% Chance of attending one or both if separate locations.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>I hope you get it all sort as I would love to attend as a new boy just starting to build my submarine.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>Kind regards from London England<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>Phil Christodolou<br>+ 44 (0)7768 233466<br><br>Alistage Ltd.<br>Earls Farm, Earls Lane, South Mimms, Herts. EN6 3LT<br>Tel: 01707 653 245<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><a href="http://www.alistage.co.uk/" target="_blank">www.alistage.co.uk</a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>On 31 Jan 2014, at 16:58, <<a href="mailto:jimtoddpsub@aol.com">jimtoddpsub@aol.com</a>> <<a href="mailto:jimtoddpsub@aol.com">jimtoddpsub@aol.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><div id="AOLMsgPart_1_c67f43bf-4872-4157-a9fd-a66ab7846e07"><div><div id="AOLMsgPart_1_d404cf98-0bea-4bc8-a357-9115dd8a4651"><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>One scenario considered was to have the convention in St. Louis and make arrangements for sub-diving either pre- or post-convention at Table Rock Lake or Bull Shoals in the southwest corner of Missouri. The considerations were these:<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><strong><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>St. Louis</span></strong><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>: <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>1. Centrally located in the US. We all love the coasts, but it can be a long, expensive trip for those not from that side of the country for attendees and any "imported" speakers.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>2. Excellent airline hub. Flight schedules are generally convenient, and reasonably priced hotels with good meeting facilities are almost within walking distance of the airport. No need for rental cars and driving time. I've loved the prior conventions, however ground transportation from airport to convention has been a logistical consideration. Obviously this isn't a big deal for those who are driving to the convention instead of flying.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>3. No sub diving sites anywhere near the convention. There are some interesting scuba sites.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>4. Great side tour to go to the top of the Gateway Arch. Quite an engineering marvel.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>5. Plans don't depend on the weather.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><strong><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>Table Rock/Bull Shoals Lakes:</span></strong><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>1. Good diving facilities with reasonably good viz at the right time of the year. I need to check with the dive master regarding specifics and best time to avoid algae bloom, etc. <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>2. Really crappy airline service and schedules. The only airports near the region are Springfield, Missouri, Little Rock, Arkansas, and Tulsa, Oklahoma. None is a hub. Little Rock and Tulsa are each about 3.5 to 4 hours driving time from Branson.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>Bottom line: St. Louis is logistically very clean, convenient, and efficient, and we could pack in a lot of tech time and presentations. Subs would be for static display and examination only except for those who can go to the lakes. The lake location is great for those who are driving anyway instead of flying.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>Question #1: How many would come to a centrally located convention with easy logistics but no sub diving?<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>Question #2. How many would come to a centrally located lake convention with difficult airline access?<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>Guys, we really need to hear from you. If there is sufficient interest, I'll take a trip to either location (or both) to scout it further. However there is a lot of work that goes into planning and organizing a convention, and it's very difficult to do it in the last few weeks before the convention. If there is not enough interest in the above, that leaves us with East Coast, West Coast, Gulf Coast, or Great Lakes (Muskegon?). I'm not available to work any of those locations.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>Best regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>Jim<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>-----Original Message-----<br>From: swaters <<a href="mailto:swaters@waters-ks.com">swaters@waters-ks.com</a>><br>To: PSUBS Member Discussion Group <<a href="mailto:member-forum@psubs.org">member-forum@psubs.org</a>><br>Sent: Fri, Jan 31, 2014 9:13 am<br>Subject: Re: [Member-Forum] PC 2014 - PSUBS Convention 2014<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div id="AOLMsgPart_2_5147c7a7-abb1-4cbb-83e1-f2f9dfbb713e"><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>It does have deep water and fairly clear. It has inexpensive hotels and also has air fill stations for scuba. Only problem is the closest airport is a ways. You are right on the lake is Corps of Engineers. I'm in your nic of the woods Jon. I am in Philly, PA getting ready to hop on a plane. <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>Thanks,<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>Scott Waters<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>Sent from my U.S. Cellular© Smartphone</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><br>Jon Wallace <<a href="mailto:jonw@psubs.org">jonw@psubs.org</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><br>Scott, perhaps you can remind us about Table Rock Lake and whether it's a suitable location. I seem to recall you said it had deep water available but that it was also somewhat remote.<br><br><br><br>On 1/31/2014 9:49 AM, swaters wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>I would prefer a diving conference. I will attend with Trustworthy. I will not be able to attend June1-July 15. Any other time should work ok. I have been unable to focus on doing any planning on the psubs conference due to a explosion of commitments for work with new stores. I would be willing to help as much as possible. I would vote for Summersville Lake, WV. I would be bringing my wife Katyand probably 2 or so divers with me. I would volunteer the use of all my equipment as well. <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>Thanks,<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>Scott Waters<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></blockquote><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div><div id="AOLMsgPart_3_5147c7a7-abb1-4cbb-83e1-f2f9dfbb713e"><pre style='background:white'><tt><span style='color:black'>_______________________________________________</span></tt><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre style='background:white'><tt><span style='color:black'>Member-Forum mailing list</span></tt><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre style='background:white'><tt><span style='color:black'><a href="mailto:Member-Forum@psubs.org">Member-Forum@psubs.org</a></span></tt><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre style='background:white'><tt><span style='color:black'><a href="http://www.psubs.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/member-forum" target="_blank">http://www.psubs.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/member-forum</a></span></tt><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></pre></div></div></div></div></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>_______________________________________________<br>Member-Forum mailing list<br><a href="mailto:Member-Forum@psubs.org">Member-Forum@psubs.org</a><br><a href="http://www.psubs.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/member-forum" target="_blank">http://www.psubs.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/member-forum</a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div></div></div><div id="AOLMsgPart_3_c4324dfd-1984-4d1f-8d31-dc40630ee3f7"><pre style='background:white'><tt><span style='color:black'>_______________________________________________<o:p></o:p></span></tt></pre><pre style='background:white'><tt><span style='color:black'>Member-Forum mailing list<o:p></o:p></span></tt></pre><pre style='background:white'><tt><span style='color:black'><a href="mailto:Member-Forum@psubs.org">Member-Forum@psubs.org</a><o:p></o:p></span></tt></pre><pre style='background:white'><tt><span style='color:black'><a href="http://www.psubs.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/member-forum" target="_blank">http://www.psubs.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/member-forum</a><o:p></o:p></span></tt></pre></div></div></div></body></html>