<html><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:12pt"><div><span>Hi James,</span></div><div><span>The junction is just a strip with screws. the reason for that is that you need to mechanically separate the wires. You need to cut between the wires in the ribbon with a razor or similar. The wires are so small and have a very small amount of insulation. It is unlikely you will be able to separate the insulation equally between wires. That is why the junction strip works. You will end up with something that looks like guitar strings . Then you need to pot the wires with epoxy or similar. It is a bugger, but it works if your desperate.</span></div><div><span>Hank</span></div><div class="yahoo_quoted" style="display: block;"> <br> <br> <div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue,
Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <div dir="ltr"> <font face="Arial" size="2"> On Tuesday, February 4, 2014 8:31:15 AM, James Frankland <jamesf@guernseysubmarine.com> wrote:<br> </font> </div> <div class="y_msg_container"><div id="yiv8871355531"><div><div>Hi Guys,</div>
<div>Kind of what i thought already. Hank whats the junction box you talk about? Is it something specific for ribbon cables?</div>
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<div>I wondered if there was some sort of vampire clamp to tap into the cable. You get similar ones on computer ribbon cables.</div>
<div>Thanks</div>
<div>James</div>
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<div class="yiv8871355531yqt9346835289" id="yiv8871355531yqtfd66280"><div class="yiv8871355531gmail_quote">On 4 February 2014 13:27, Steve McQueen <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:psub101@indy.rr.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:psub101@indy.rr.com">psub101@indy.rr.com</a>></span> wrote:<br clear="none">
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<div>James, If you can't get to the business end of the ribbon cable it is possible cut and solder. However this is a labor intensive approach as the cuts ends need to be prepped (stripped/cleaned such that they can be re soldered). It would be easier if you could have the cables on a bench surface but it looks like that isn't an easy option for your scenario.<br clear="none">
<br clear="none"></div>In soldering preparation is 90% of the job and I would believe this would best be done under magnification of some sort (I have actually soldered using a microscope) . Also it would be important to ensure no shorts so after ensuring the joints are good you could coat/secure it with some insulating material (epoxy?).<br clear="none">
<br clear="none"></div>Or... if you can cut and prep the ends appropriately you could then try to find/use an appropriate flat cable connector. This would remove the soldering aspect but not the prep.<br clear="none"><br clear="none"></div>Probably nothing you didn't already know....<span><font color="#888888"><br clear="none">
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<div class="yiv8871355531gmail_quote">On Tue, Feb 4, 2014 at 7:33 AM, <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:vbra676539@aol.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:vbra676539@aol.com">vbra676539@aol.com</a>></span> wrote:<br clear="none">
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</font><div><font size="3">I have the same problem. Wanted to run the motor controllers aft on a heat sink, and the controllers in a hand box.</font></div><span><font color="#888888"></font></span>
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<div style="font-family: helvetica, arial; font-size: 10pt;">-----Original Message-----<br clear="none">From: James Frankland <<a href="mailto:jamesf@guernseysubmarine.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:jamesf@guernseysubmarine.com">jamesf@guernseysubmarine.com</a>><br clear="none">To: PSUBS Member Discussion Group <<a href="mailto:member-forum@psubs.org" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:member-forum@psubs.org">member-forum@psubs.org</a>><br clear="none">
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<div>Trouble is that you cant undo the motor controler, or pot. So you cant actually get to the start of end of the ribbon. Well, not without breaking it open. <br clear="none"><br clear="none">
<div class="yiv8871355531gmail_quote">On 4 February 2014 10:55, Pete Niedermayr <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:pniedermayr@yahoo.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:pniedermayr@yahoo.com">pniedermayr@yahoo.com</a>></span> wrote:<br clear="none">
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--------------------------------------------<br clear="none">On Tue, 2/4/14, James Frankland <<a href="mailto:jamesf@guernseysubmarine.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:jamesf@guernseysubmarine.com">jamesf@guernseysubmarine.com</a>> wrote:<br clear="none"><br clear="none"> Subject: [Member-Forum] Motor Controller Ribbon Cable<br clear="none">
To: <a href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>, "PSUBS Member Discussion Group" <<a href="mailto:member-forum@psubs.org" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:member-forum@psubs.org">member-forum@psubs.org</a>><br clear="none">
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<div><br clear="none"> Hi All,<br clear="none"> <br clear="none"> Does anyone have any experience in<br clear="none"> cutting\re-joining thin ribbon type cable. I'm<br clear="none"> going to modify my motor controllers so that the buttons are<br clear="none"> on the handles like they should be. Where they are at the<br clear="none">
moment its awkward to steer and operate the power at the<br clear="none"> same time. Ideally i'd like to cut the ribbon cable<br clear="none"> and extend it so i can have the pots on the handles. But<br clear="none"> im not sure if I cut the cable, i'll be able to get them<br clear="none">
back together.<br clear="none"><br clear="none"> <br clear="none"> Its the 3 white ribbon cables in this picture, with the<br clear="none"> blue pots on the end. I want to extend these to the<br clear="none"> handles.<br clear="none"> <br clear="none"> <a href="http://www.guernseysubmarine.com/extended_files/Page18279.htm" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" shape="rect">http://www.guernseysubmarine.com/extended_files/Page18279.htm</a><br clear="none">
<br clear="none"> Also looks like Jim K has done a similar thing on<br clear="none"> Guppy. Last pictures on his page.<br clear="none"> <br clear="none"> <a href="http://www.psubs.org/projects/1234567814/bionicguppy/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" shape="rect">http://www.psubs.org/projects/1234567814/bionicguppy/</a><br clear="none">
<br clear="none"> Anyone cut these type of cables and got them back<br clear="none"> together?<br clear="none"> <br clear="none"> Kind Regards<br clear="none"> James<br clear="none"><br clear="none"></div></div> -----Inline Attachment Follows-----<br clear="none"><br clear="none"> _______________________________________________<br clear="none"> Member-Forum mailing list<br clear="none">
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