<html><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:14pt"><div><span>Hi Douglas,</span></div><div><span></span> </div><div><span>I'm not sure either!</span></div><div><span></span> </div><div><span>The one sure thing in these intervening years leading up to a build is that the learning curve continues to climb on these various applicable processes. The result hopefully being the end product you predict.</span></div><div><span></span> </div><div><span>I like the look of a clown fish for the SportSub, it's a natural fit. That design would also look good dressed as various other colorful reef critters. Sergeant Major, Yellow Tang, Lion Fish come to mind. Another out of the box look would be an Angler Fish, although that would have to be really done well to pull it off.</span></div><div><span></span> </div><div><span>Thanks
Douglas!</span></div><div><span></span> </div><div><span>Joe</span></div><div><span></span> </div><div style="display: block;" class="yahoo_quoted"> <div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 14pt;"> <div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <div dir="ltr"> <font size="2" face="Arial"> On Sunday, March 30, 2014 7:42 PM, Douglas Suhr <spiritofcalypso@gmail.com> wrote:<br> </font> </div> <div class="y_msg_container"><div id="yiv8548178640"><div><div dir="ltr">Awesome design idea Joe. I'm not sure what its going to be, but one day you are going to have a really cool sub of some sort! I have actually been thinking about vinyl graphics myself lately because I am looking for a simple way to do the clownfish scheme on the sportsub hull. <div>
<br clear="none"></div><div>I'm going to have the hull painted professionally, but instead of having a really expensive custom job, I was thinking about just getting the whole thing painted orange and then having vinyl graphics of the white w/ black trim printed up to stick on back at the tail, amidships and nose for a quicker finnish. </div>
<div><br clear="none"></div><div>Obviously I am counting on the graphics eventually getting torn, scratched and/or dirty, so I'll have some back up decals on stand-by. </div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>Another thing I really like about the graphics instead of a pure paint job is that if I ever get sick of the clownfish scheme I could do a coast guard/rescue sub. ~ Douglas S. </div>
</div><div class="yiv8548178640gmail_extra"><br clear="none"><br clear="none"><div class="yiv8548178640gmail_quote">On Sun, Mar 30, 2014 at 5:06 PM, Joe Perkel <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:josephperkel@yahoo.com" shape="rect" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:josephperkel@yahoo.com">josephperkel@yahoo.com</a>></span> wrote:<br clear="none">
<blockquote style="margin: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex; border-left-color: rgb(204, 204, 204); border-left-width: 1px; border-left-style: solid;" class="yiv8548178640gmail_quote"><table border="0" cellSpacing="0" cellPadding="0"><tbody><tr><td vAlign="top" rowSpan="1" colSpan="1">Alan,<br clear="none"><br clear="none">Good point!<br clear="none"><br clear="none">In that case for my intended purpose, a free flooding dome overlay over a flat port could do the job and be homemade. The attach frames could have the limber holes. I'm thinking pupil and iris here viewed externally. If visibility is too adversely compromised, then I keep it clear. In any case, clever placement of reflective lighting will have a distinct "Hollywood" effect for night ops.<br clear="none">
<br clear="none">Let me ask you this. If I wanted to do the Kraken overlay in some type of 3d relief, what medium crosses your mind as a contender? I'm thinking some type of airbrushed layering?<div class="yiv8548178640"><br clear="none"><br clear="none">Joe<a href="http://overview.mail.yahoo.com/?.src=iOS" shape="rect" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"><br clear="none">
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<span>Alan</span></div><div><br clear="none"></div> <div style='font-family: HelveticaNeue, "Helvetica Neue", Helvetica, Arial, "Lucida Grande", sans-serif; font-size: 14pt;'> <div style='font-family: HelveticaNeue, "Helvetica Neue", Helvetica, Arial, "Lucida Grande", sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;'>
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<br clear="none"><div><div><table border="0" cellSpacing="0" cellPadding="0"><tbody><tr><td vAlign="top" rowSpan="1" colSpan="1">Hank,<br clear="none"><br clear="none">Yes, but in areas not expected to have friction contact. Specifically, on acrylic to camouflage a window/port and its frame.<br clear="none">
<br clear="none">Why in the world would I want to do that you say?<br clear="none"><br clear="none">I have an idea for a spectacular graphic of a Kraken complete with domes for eyes on the CT. See attached image. A sort of "steam punk" meets Nazi U-boat effect. Picture it on my Seehund.<br clear="none">
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<div><div><table border="0" cellSpacing="0" cellPadding="0"><tbody><tr><td vAlign="top" rowSpan="1" colSpan="1">Those intricate vinyl graphics that appear on vehicles these days can
be quite artistic and impressive. Of particular interest, is the one-way see through technology. This presents an interesting potential for artistic
expression if it were to prove viable in a marine environment.<br clear="none"><br clear="none">That's the question of the day, anyone with any experience in this
medium? Would the 3m product hold up in a marine environment?<br clear="none"><br clear="none">Joe<a href="http://overview.mail.yahoo.com/?.src=iOS" shape="rect" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"><br clear="none"><br clear="none">
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