[PSUBS-MAILIST] G.L. summary Pressure Hull

hank pronk hanker_20032000 at yahoo.ca
Tue Dec 17 20:36:01 EST 2013 

Vance,
I changed my mind,  ;-)  I have mounted the hyd valve and hose cutter inside the front mbt. originally  I wanted the valve inside the sub because the arm was not jettesonable.  Now that it is, there is no need to have it inside.  Also I am saving a LOT of money.   The arm is all rebuilt with new rods in the hyd cylinders.  I am painting it tomorrow and will post pictures when it back together.
Hank



On Sunday, December 15, 2013 10:21:09 AM, "vbra676539 at aol.com" <vbra676539 at aol.com> wrote:
  
Very nice indeed. It's what I figured to do. Glad to hear it is a working hypothesis. 
Vance



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From: hank pronk <hanker_20032000 at yahoo.ca>
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Vance, 
I had the fellow who works for me buff one of the mbt windows.  he runs a small body shop in our off season, so he is a pro at buffing.  I gave him the most beat up window in the lot.  He brought it back to like new condition.  There are a couple of deep scratches that are not worth worrying about.  With water on both sides of the glass the scratches disappear.  I a very confident the original port windows will be like new when he is finished with them.  How nice is that 
Hank 



On Saturday, December 14, 2013 2:46:44 PM, hank pronk <hanker_20032000 at yahoo.ca> wrote:
  
Vance, 
I am sure it will be fine, it makes sense that the motor will draw down with an increase of pressure acting on the shaft. 
I am back to work on the manipulator now.  It is nice to have a change. 
Hank 



On Saturday, December 14, 2013 1:46:23 PM, Vance Bradley <Vbra676539 at AOL.com> wrote:
  
Well, maybe a break in period will help, too. 
Vance

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On Dec 14, 2013, at 3:36 PM, hank pronk <hanker_20032000 at yahoo.ca> wrote:

  
Hi Vance, 
>Yes it is linear, it is a very smooth and gradual.  Everything spins freely.  I may have a bit to much grease on my thrust bearing also.   
>Hank 
>
>
>
>On Saturday, December 14, 2013 1:26:10 PM, Vance Bradley <Vbra676539 at AOL.com> wrote:
>  
>Linear meaning a steady increase in demand in parallel to rising pressure. If you have a low rise with a sudden increase somewhere along the line then you may have a component not working as it should. 
>Vance 
>
>Sent from my iPhone 
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>On Dec 14, 2013, at 3:02 PM, hank pronk <hanker_20032000 at yahoo.ca> wrote:
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>  
>Hi Vance, 
>>I did not have it in the sub so it was not hooked up to the amp gauge.  What do you mean by linear. 
>>Hank 
>>
>>
>>
>>On Saturday, December 14, 2013 11:12:40 AM, Vance Bradley <Vbra676539 at AOL.com> wrote:
>>  
>>How much did your amperage increase at depth? Was the load increase linear? 
>>Vance
>>
>>Sent from my iPhone 
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>>On Dec 14, 2013, at 1:07 PM, hank pronk <hanker_20032000 at yahoo.ca> wrote:
>>
>>  
>>I just did a 1/2hr run on my new drive with the shaft tube full of water and under 500psi.  The seal works perfectly and there is very little heat build up.  I was surprised how much the motor pulls down after 200psi.  I assume it is from the shaft pushing into the thrust bearing.  Also I am running the motor on 12v because it spins to fast on 24 with no load. 
>>>Hank 
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>On Thursday, December 12, 2013 1:27:28 PM, hank pronk <hanker_20032000 at yahoo.ca> wrote:
>>>  
>>>Vance, 
>>>Thank you, it only took me two tries to make the assembly and 5 tries to make the shaft.  Rookie machinist and all.  :-) 
>>>Hank  
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>On Thursday, December 12, 2013 12:36:27 PM, Alan <alanlindsayjames at yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>  
>>>Carsten, 
>>>Your friends in Hamburg wouldn't be happy with the get wet solution. 
>>>As an after thought on my ambient, I put a AOP valve above my 
>>>head & through the dome. It works the opposite way round, so that if 
>>>I dive too quick & the hull doesn't equalise, I get water on my head. 
>>>The hull is equalised with divers regulators so better to get wet 
>>>than the regulator diaphragm rupturing.  The manual operation of the 
>>>AOP let's me flood up to the top of the dome in an emergency exit, 
>>>as there may be too much force on the latches to open them with 
>>>air in the dome.  
>>>Alan 
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>>Sent from my iPad 
>>>
>>>On 13/12/2013, at 7:33 AM, " " <MerlinSub at t-online.de> wrote:
>>>
>>>   
>>>    
>>>If you have an over-pressure valve handle obstructing 
the Alan 
>>>movement 
of the hatch latch handle, it would need to be 
>>>spring 
loaded or you would create the problem of the possibility 
>>>of diving with 
the valve open later on.
>>>
>>>
>>>Yes, and if you dive with a open valve 
you get wet
>>>learn to close it and learn to read you "pre-dive" checklist. 
>>>
>>>:-O   
>>>
>>>SL not required an blocking mechanism on the 
hatch - just an 
>>>simple spring loaded automatic overpressure valve. 
>>>Because of the automatic there is no need to block the hatch. 
>>>The air 
sound of the working valve is a clear signal not to open the hatch.
>>>The 
function of the valve should be anyway mention in the written manual. 
>>>
>>>very best regards
>>>
>>>Carsten
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