[PSUBS-MAILIST] buoyancy

Jon Wallace jonw at psubs.org
Sat Nov 9 18:08:28 EST 2013


That's pretty close...I calculated 524 feet with 125psi internal and 
suspect you could push it to 600 feet.  But that would be the limit so 
you'd want to build in a safety factor or risk failure at depth.


On 11/9/2013 12:42 PM, hank pronk wrote:
> Hi Rick,
> I have used 20lb propane tanks for buoyancy.  I think they give 35lb 
> buoyancy and if you pressurize them to 125psi I am sure they could go 
> to 600 ft.  Test one first.
> Hank
>
>
> On Saturday, November 9, 2013 10:16:57 AM, Land N Sea 
> <landnsea1 at hawaiiantel.net> wrote:
> Hi David,
> any idea what the two floats provide in buoyancy?
> Rick
> *From:* David Colombo <mailto:seaquestor at gmail.com>
> *Sent:* Friday, November 08, 2013 8:25 PM
> *To:* Personal Submersibles General Discussion 
> <mailto:personal_submersibles at psubs.org>
> *Subject:* Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] buoyancy
> Hi Rick, here is a quote on the floats I just got.  The 551 float is 
> $10.80 ea., less 10% per carton of 18. The 364 float is $6.00 ea., 
> less 10% per carton of 72. I will be ordering some of each, but not 
> enough for 18 or 72.
> David Colombo
> On Nov 7, 2013 12:02 PM, "Smyth, Alec" <Alec.Smyth at covisint.com 
> <mailto:Alec.Smyth at covisint.com>> wrote:
>
>     Hi Rick,
>     If you need some cheap buoyancy that will go to significant
>     depths, I'd recommend fishing floats you can get here:
>     http://trawlworks.com/floats.htm
>     I guarantee you'll find uses for them afterwards, whether it's as
>     emergency release buoys, mooring buoys, or whatever.
>     Best,
>
>     Alec
>     *From:*Personal_Submersibles
>     [mailto:personal_submersibles-bounces at psubs.org
>     <mailto:personal_submersibles-bounces at psubs.org>] *On Behalf Of
>     *Land N Sea
>     *Sent:* Thursday, November 07, 2013 2:18 PM
>     *To:* personal_submersibles at psubs.org
>     <mailto:personal_submersibles at psubs.org>
>     *Subject:* [PSUBS-MAILIST] buoyancy
>     I was thinking of testing both my battery pods to 600' before I
>     weld them to the hull so that if there are any issues with leakage
>     I would still be able to get them on a lathe. I added two vents
>     per pod with O rings so that I can push/suck air across the
>     batteries while charging so there are a couple of more places for
>     leaks to occur. I did the calks' and they weigh in at 295 LBS.
>     each dry with a negative displacement of around 30 lbs. I was
>     hoping that they would barley float with no batteries in them so
>     that I could weight them just slightly negative for ease of
>     launching and retrieving but that's not the case. I need to come
>     up with about 30 lbs. of positive buoyancy and don't have any
>     syntactic foam so I figured I could strap some 4" X 4", on them to
>     achieve that. This may be a dumb question but does anyone happen
>     to know the per foot buoyancy of a 4" X 4" in sea water? If not
>     I'll head down to the ocean and start testing.
>     I also mentioned the other week about my desire to omit the plate
>     that is welded to the pressure hull and battery pod of a K-350 and
>     was wondering if any one could comment on that.
>     Rick
>
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