[PSUBS-MAILIST] G.L. Submersible Classification

[Douglas Suhr]

I have a question. Assuming I am building a single (as in, quantity: 1)
submersible that I don't plan to sell or give to anyone else, what is the
big advantage/motivation to having my sub classed by any of these
organizations (excluding the prestige)? That's a lot of money to throw at a
certificate or whatever (that could be used to build a submarine!).

If you plan to carry passengers for hire and need insurance, or are trying
to procure commercial work of any sort, I understand completly. But for the
average joe submersible builder, what's the big draw? ~ Douglas S.


On Tue, Nov 26, 2013 at 9:42 PM, Jim Todd <jimtoddpsub at aol.com> wrote:

> The public use has to do with trademarks and some copyrights.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Nov 19, 2013, at 8:52 PM, "Phil Nuytten" <phil at philnuytten.com> wrote:
>
>  Alan
> RE: cost of sub certification - If you do all the test documentation, plan
> approval docs, FEA’s, Von Mises, construction drawings, electronic
> schematics, piping diagrams and sub-system drawings, yourself – figure
> about $50,000.
>  Phil
> BTW, putting a patentable idea out in the ‘public domain’ most certainly
> doesn’t safeguard against anyone copying it – in fact, it may well be the
> exact opposite! ‘Public Disclosure’ may well prohibit the ability to engage
> the patent  process, period. (Not trying to chuck cold water, but check the
> US patent act and that’s what you’ll find . . . if you intend to disclose
> prior to patenting, then at least apply for a ‘Provisional Patent’ – dirt
> cheap, and protects you for 12 months or so )
>  *From:* Alan James <alanlindsayjames at yahoo.com>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, November 26, 2013 1:04 PM
> *To:* Personal Submersibles General Discussion<personal_submersibles at psubs.org>
> *Subject:* Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] G.L. Submersible Classification
>
>  Hi Jon,
> someone may have more knowledge on this but I think that
> because you have put your idea out in the public domain
> it may be regarded as "prior art work" safe guarding you against
> anybody patenting your idea.
> Can anybody have a guess at what classification for a boat similar
> to a K350 would cost in fees to an agency, aside from all the additional
> costs in getting together all the documentation etc.
> Alan
>
>   ------------------------------
> *From:* Jon Wallace <jonw at psubs.org>
> *To:* Personal Submersibles General Discussion <
> personal_submersibles at psubs.org>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, November 27, 2013 9:22 AM
> *Subject:* Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] G.L. Submersible Classification
>
>
> And nobody better steal my idea until I patent it.
>
> On 11/26/2013 2:26 PM, MerlinSub at t-online.de wrote:
>
>
> I am pretty sure a electric driven MBT valve based on a handheld drilling
> machine motor will be not accept as equal solution.
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Personal_Submersibles mailing list
> Personal_Submersibles at psubs.org
> http://www.psubs.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/personal_submersibles
>
>
>  ------------------------------
> _______________________________________________
> Personal_Submersibles mailing list
> Personal_Submersibles at psubs.org
> http://www.psubs.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/personal_submersibles
>
> _______________________________________________
> Personal_Submersibles mailing list
> Personal_Submersibles at psubs.org
> http://www.psubs.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/personal_submersibles
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Personal_Submersibles mailing list
> Personal_Submersibles at psubs.org
> http://www.psubs.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/personal_submersibles
>
>
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://www.whoweb.com/pipermail/personal_submersibles/attachments/20131126/7f67c4f9/attachment.html>