[PSUBS-MAILIST] first dive

Wed Feb 19 10:50:59 EST 2014

Thanks guys, it seems a good solution, and a shop cart is a huge bonus.  I have a storage area that I can roll the sub in when I need to fee up the shop.  Vance, yes we got some looks alright, it was fun watching people do an about face.  
I also thought about permanent wheels on the sub.  They would need to be solid and small.  The problem with small wheels is, when we run out of concrete on the ramp and it turns to mud, well your done.  The other concern is entanglement.  I suppose if you built a chassis like the DW that drops off it would be fine.  I guess it is just a matter of where you are and the conditions you face.   I wish I could do permanent wheels.
Hank
I am adding a pic of the ramp so you guys can see why I am doing this. 

On Wednesday, February 19, 2014 8:15:15 AM, Joe Perkel <josephperkel at yahoo.com> wrote:

Hank,

The two piece cart idea is a winner. Vance is right, that would do nice double duty as a shop cart.
You sure do have a knack for problem solving!

Joe

On Wednesday, February 19, 2014 9:52 AM, Steve McQueen <psub101 at indy.rr.com> wrote:

I am also considering permanent wheels.  The picture of The Great White on the boat ramp that was posted seemed like a lot of functionality.  

Steve

On Wed, Feb 19, 2014 at 9:25 AM, <vbra676539 at aol.com> wrote:

That's a great idea, Hank. I've been fretting about launching my K-350, which draws four feet or so. Florida ramps allow maybe that much depending on the tide, but often they are too short to allow more than three feet. 
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>I watched the Great White vids and noticed that they have developed ramps that attach to the back of the trailer (like a pair of narrow motorcycle ramps) and that the sub has wheels mounted underneath. I was thinking about something like that, but might be better off building a very low profile shop cart that the sub could live on in the garage, and would double as a launch cart at the ramp. 
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>Cool. I hadn't thought about two pieces to a launch, and I'm betting I can solve my problem the same way you are solving yours. Rotten luck you didn't get to play, but at least you've got some ideas working on how to solve the problem, and some experience hauling the sub around. Bet you got some interested looks on the highway! 
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>From: hank pronk <hanker_20032000 at yahoo.ca>
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>unfortunately, we were not able to launch Gamma.  We drove out to Kootenay lake but missed the weather window.  The boat ramp is very long and super steep, witch is okay but it was to icy.  I could not risk having the whole works slide into the lake.  We drove an extra hour to the next launch and it was the same.  In all we checked four spots and they were either to icy or to shallow.  The trip was not a waste though, I know now that I need a launch cart.  A cart that can be winched up and  down the ramp with the sub on it.  I plan to use my sub in the winter as much as in the summer, so I need an all season launch system.  With a cart, I can park at the top of the ramp where it is safe and let the sub down to the water with a cable.  Also I can launch into shallower water.   Right now I need 6 feet of water to launch, with the cart I only need 4.5 feet.   
>Hank 
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>On Monday, February 17, 2014 12:38:15 PM, "vbra676539 at aol.com" <vbra676539 at aol.com> wrote:
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>Yes, great when it works, but.....  
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>Good luck tomorrow. 
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>Vance
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>From: hank pronk <hanker_20032000 at yahoo.ca>
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>Vance,
>Agreed,  the dealer is installing a new thingamajig,  it will be ready in an hr.  I will try again Tomorrow.  This is why I should not have computer stuff in my sub, it is not dependable.  It is great when it works though. 
>Hank   
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>Argh!!!  
>Vance
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>From: hank pronk <hanker_20032000 at yahoo.ca>
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>Thanks' Steve 
>I am back already, I am so Pissed!  Just 20 miles into the trip my trailer brakes quit.  After spending 45min working on the problem we found it is the truck.  I am taking it to the dealer now to get it fixed.  
>Hank 
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>On Monday, February 17, 2014 6:07:09 AM, Steve McQueen <psub101 at indy.rr.com> wrote:
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>Good Luck!
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>On Sun, Feb 16, 2014 at 11:19 AM, hank pronk <hanker_20032000 at yahoo.ca> wrote:
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>I am leaving tomorrow morning for Kootenay Lake, I am doing a test dive.  I am tired of waiting for winter to let go, I cant work on my barge.  Gamma is all loaded up and tarped up.  I can test the propulsion, and dive to safe depths.  I can not afford the 3k for batteries at the moment, so I have four batteries removed from my commercial truck sitting on the floor of Gamma.  I have the battery box filled with 480 lbs of scrap bits of steel.  It will be crowded inside :-) .  I am carrying the scrubber inside the truck to keep it warm.  It may be snowing out there, but that adds to the adventure.  I also replaced the mbt windows with steel plates, I was intending to drop her to 1,000 feet first.  I do not trust the condition of the mbt windows to handle unknown conditions at 1,000 feet.  I will leave the plates in place until I get the deep test done.  
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