[PSUBS-MAILIST] insurance

[hank pronk]

Brian,
I kept my 8k lbs sub in my boat slip with no questions about insurance.  My biggest problem was keeping people off it.  I moved it to a anchor in the bay and covered the windows and that worked.
Hank



On Friday, March 28, 2014 10:32:06 AM, Carsten Standfuß <MerlinSub at t-online.de> wrote:
  
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I have slip douzend of different boats 
on differnet slipways. 
They never called for a
insurance.  Sometimes they call for 5 bucks.. 


"Brian Cox" <brian at ojaivalleybeefarm.com> schrieb: 
What about if you want to keep your sub in a slip in a marina,
most of the marinas require insurance for your
boat.
>
>Brian
>
>--- MerlinSub at t-online.de
wrote:
>
>From: "Carsten Standfuß "
<MerlinSub at t-online.de>
>To: "Personal Submersibles General
Discussion" <personal_submersibles at psubs.org>
>Subject: Re:
[PSUBS-MAILIST] insurance
>Date: 27 Mar 2014 22:48 GMT
>
>Thats right. If you make bad saftey 
precautions or a mistake.. 
>
>But if you make no mistake and he
just wash 
overboard and battered in pieces by the propeller
>- and later
his 
lawer comes with funny arguments, like "there is no railing all
around on 
your submarine and my client was not aware of it." 
>
>In that
case you 
have a nice paper that your guest have notice that.. 
>If somebody
not
sign 
this paper he will not tavel with the submarine.. 
>
>groet 
Carsten
>
>
>"Emile van Essen" <emile at airesearch.nl> schrieb: 
>“But anyway passenger have to sign a paper that
a submarine is a potential dangerous machine and they take the trip on
there
own risk.”  
>>Doing this makes no sense. If a accident is
related to
bad safety precautions or a big mistake by the pilot, you have a
problem
anyway..  
>>Regards, Emile    
>>
>>________________________________
>>   
>>Van:Personal_Submersibles [mailto:personal_submersibles-bounces at psubs.org] Namens "Carsten Standfuß
"
>>Verzonden: donderdag 27
maart 2014
18:11
>>Aan: Personal Submersibles
General
Discussion
>>Onderwerp: Re:
[PSUBS-MAILIST]
insurance  
>>All SL classe subs have a insurance. 
>>
>>Nessesary if you try to carry passengers for money. 
>>
>>The lawer of the children of a 90 years old passenger with a deadly
heardattack
on his birthday travel
>>in your sub will strip you to nothing if you have no insurance. 
>>
>>Euronaut has no class but a P&I insurance due to the owners
good
network in the shipbuilding industry. 
>>And maybe due to the fact that the owner work as naval architect and
time to
time for a classification society..
>>But anyway passenger have to sign a paper that a
submarine
is a
potential dangerous machine and they take the trip on there own risk. 
>>
>>But why you want to insure? The insurance will only cover the damage
the
sub do
to others. 
>>I dont think that you sub will do major damage to others. Such a
minimum
insurance will cost you about 4000-5000 USD a year. 
>>A full insurance in all directions will cost you maybe 10 times more. 
>>
>>And if teh sub sinks it will be much cheaper if you raise it by
yourself.
Just in case you survife.. 
>>
>>For transport on a road you can insure the boat just as cargo or
Motorboat. 
>>The insurance will not see a special risk in that. And for storage it
should be
the same. 
>>
>>vbr Carsten
>>
>>
>>
>>"hank pronk" <hanker_20032000 at yahoo.ca> schrieb:   
>>I
have made an attempt to buy insurance for my sub.  I contacted my
insurance broker that I deal with for my business as well as my
daughter
who is
an insurance broker.  It is not possible unless the sub is
certified.  I was only looking for insurance to cover loss during
storage
and during transport.  I was only looking for a set amount to
cover
my actual costs.    
>>My
next attempt will be adding cargo insurance through my business and
maybe my
home insurance can be modified.  
>>Does
anyone have insurance on a sub here?  
>>Hank     _______________________________________________
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