[PSUBS-MAILIST] Submarine hunt in Sweden

Tue Oct 21 18:49:19 EDT 2014

No reason for a PSub not to be as visible as possible. As for colour, I found a relevant study: 

http://www.worksafebc.com/contact_us/research/funding_decisions/assets/pdf/2009/RS2009_IG30.pdf 

Fluorescent green above the waterline, flat black below? 

Sean 

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From: "Alec Smyth via Personal_Submersibles" <personal_submersibles at psubs.org> 
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Traditionally I suppose civilian subs have been painted in bright colors just for visibility. But in today's world, particularly in the US, I think the bright colors are just as important for conveying the message that you are not trying to hide. I've taken Snoopy to Florida twice, and both times the Coast Guard or Police were circling me within minutes our first time out. Once in a helicopter, the other time with a boat. They circled a few times to take a look and then left us alone for the rest of our stay in the area. Its pure speculation, but I really feel that if Snoopy were painted in black, gray, or camouflage, they would probably have wanted to come aboard for a closer look, and with a K-250's freeboard that would be really problematic if not impossible in open water, so it would have required a trip back to the boat ramp and spoiled a day's diving. 

Best, 

Alec 

On Tue, Oct 21, 2014 at 10:00 AM, Emile van Essen via Personal_Submersibles < personal_submersibles at psubs.org > wrote: 

It was not me.. The Dutch silent service usually do exercises near Scotland 
and they are seldom lost.. 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6OXgjl-sR2A 
It is a advantage to have a sub in any other colour than flat black or 
grey.. They look like a military sub even how small they are. 

Regards, Emile 

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Namens Pete Niedermayr via Personal_Submersibles 
Verzonden: maandag 20 oktober 2014 23:42 
Aan: Personal Submersibles General Discussion 
Onderwerp: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Submarine hunt in Sweden 

I read the Swedes think it's Russian and the Russians say "You better ask 
the Dutch". Anybody know of a Dutchman with submarine ? 

Pete 

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On Mon, 10/20/14, hank pronk via Personal_Submersibles 
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Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Submarine hunt in Sweden 
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Date: Monday, October 20, 2014, 4:01 PM 

My 
favorite sound is an old fishing trawler 
Hank-------------------------------------------- 
On Mon, 10/20/14, Carsten Standfuß " via 
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[PSUBS-MAILIST] Submarine hunt in Sweden 

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Received: Monday, October 20, 2014, 3:45 PM 

E-Mail Software 
6.0Was 
the other one blue 
with yellow 
stripes and makes sound like a 
old fishing trawler? 
;-) 

"Lasse Schmidt via 

Personal_Submersibles" 
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schrieb: 

That is correct 
Allan, it's very exciting, 

Lasse 
SchmidtUpplevelseakuten 
ABSkeppsbron 21, 
Tullhus 

111130 StockholmTelefon växel: 08-660 

16 
10Mobiltelefon: 070-28 32 660 
20 okt 2014 
kl. 20:43 skrev 
"Alan James via 

Personal_Submersibles" < personal_submersibles at psubs.org >: 

Thanks 

Lasse,great 
media coverage you are getting 
there.I 
ran Google 

translate, but it wasn't perfect.From 

what I can understand there was a military type 
submarine sighted & itwas 

being confused with your submarine. Is that 

correct?Cheers 
Alan 

From: Lasse 
Schmidt 
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Sent: Tuesday, 
October 21, 2014 3:20 AM 

Subject: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Submarine hunt 
in 
Sweden 

As a few of you might have noticed, 
that we have some submarine issues in Sweden 
right now. 
Our submarine 

and myself got quite a lot of attention in the media 
because 
of this, 
mostly 
denying that it was us that were visible a certain 
day. 

http://www.svd.se/naringsliv/nyheter/sverige/familj-filmade-ubat-i-skargarde 
n-under-helgen_4026049.svd 

http://www.aftonbladet.se/nyheter/article19715914.ab 

http://www.mvt.se/nyheter/ubatskapten-inte-vi-bakom-krankning-10274389.aspx 

Lasse 
Schmidt 
Upplevelsepresent.se 
Skeppsbron 21, Tullhus 1 

11130 Stockholm 
070-28 32 

660 

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