[PSUBS-MAILIST] Scott's new sub

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Thu Jan 8 18:47:16 EST 2015


There may actually be some viability to a 516 gr 70 sphere that is 60" diameter and reach a depth of 1000 meters then. Thank you for the prelim calc!
Scott Waters


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From: hank pronk via Personal_Submersibles <personal_submersibles at psubs.org> 
Date:01/08/2015  5:23 PM  (GMT-06:00) 
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Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Scott's new sub 



A 60in sphere .75in thick weighs 3391lbs it displaces 7030 lbs leaves you with 3640 bouyancy
Hanh


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On Thu, 8 Jan, 2015 6:12 PM EST hank pronk via Personal_Submersibles wrote:

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>Scott,
>You could do just what Vance says and down the road if you like you could swap out the hull with a HY-100 hull.  This way you get more experience and have the ability to upgrade.  That is funny really, upgrade from 2,700 feet to what? :-)
>Hank--------------------------------------------
>On Thu, 1/8/15, via Personal_Submersibles <personal_submersibles at psubs.org> wrote:
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> Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Scott's new sub
> To: personal_submersibles at psubs.org
> Received: Thursday, January 8, 2015, 6:01 PM
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> You'll get plenty of encouragement from us,
> I would think, along with an appropriate amount of razzing.
> Don't worry about the nay-sayers. I would remind you
> that Karl Stanley has been listening to that shit for years.
> Well, not listening exactly, because he went ahead in spite
> of them, and looks pretty cheerful about the results. Who
> wouldn't be?
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> And
> speaking of Idabel, have you thought about multiple spheres?
> I talked to Karl in New Orleans a couple of years ago, and
> did some figuring afterwards. A couple of intersecting
> 5' spheres  with a free flooding sail and a few small
> cameras might get you a 5-tonnish sub. Do the big Perry
> style viewport in front with maybe some 12-inchers on either
> side in both hulls? Maybe a dome hatch/conn on top in the
> back sphere? It might need some foam to float, but that
> isn't much of a problem these days. Hmm.
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> Idabel's aft sphere and conning tower are
> A516GR70, in case you were wondering. You'd have to run
> some numbers. Maybe .75" wall? I'm not sure.
> Something to think about, anyway. And small is good for
> psubs, right?
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> Vance
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> Thanks Alan!!! That really means alot to me. In my
> hobby, I don't get alot of encouragement from others
> untill I am sucsessful. It is nice to have it along the
> way!
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> Thanks again!,
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> Scott Waters
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> From: Alan James via Personal_Submersibles  
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> Date:01/08/2015  2:13 PM  (GMT-06:00) 
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> Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Scott's new sub 
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> Scott,
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> you made a
> K350 in record time & you are relatively young as a sub
> builder.
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> I would
> encourage you to build, as you will increase
> your
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> knowledge
> & skill base in the process & save money. Who knows
> where 
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> it
> will go from there.
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> Alan
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> Scott,
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> If you are okay with purchasing a
> 1000m sub rather than building it, then what are your
> thoughts on the Triton line?  Pricey?
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> Tim
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> On Behalf Of swaters at waters-ks.com
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> Hank,
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> The records I have of
> Pisces say they are made of HY-100 and capable to 2000
> meters. 
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> 1000 feet isn't
> enough of a challenge for me. My goal is 3,300 feet or more,
> but may have no choice to shallow it up because of material,
> but we will see. The plan is to have enough redundancy and
> enough safety features like jettisonable manipulator arms
> and even a jettisonable personel sphere that it is as safe
> as it can be at that depth.
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> Thanks,
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> Scott Waters
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> From: hank pronk via Personal_Submersibles 
> Date:01/07/2015 1:39 PM (GMT-06:00) 
> To: Personal Submersibles General Discussion
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> Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Scott's
> new sub 
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> Scott,
> I thought Vance said
> they were 516-70, I must have read it wrong.  I don't
> know what your planning  with a 1,000m capable sub.  I
> can't imagine diving that deep with no means of
> rescue.  Are you planning on two subs maybe?  Don't
> get me wrong, I love the idea.  What about copying one in
> 516-70 and live with the depth capability.  I would imagine
> you could see 1,000 feet plus, a very respectable and
> affordable Psub. 
> Hank--------------------------------------------
> On Wed, 1/7/15, swaters at waters-ks.com
> via Personal_Submersibles <personal_submersibles at psubs.org>
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> Received: Wednesday, January 7, 2015, 1:44
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> I would
> love to, except a Pisces is HY-100, which I am
> having a
> terrible time getting that
> material. I'd love to go on a
> deep dive
> with you though! I am going to Seneca lake New
> York this April for some deep diving. Might be
> also going to
> lake Michigan this year
> too.Thanks,Scott Waters
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> Date:01/07/2015  12:23 PM  (GMT-06:00) 
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> Subject: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Scott's new
> sub 
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> Hi Scott,
> Maybe you could save some money and time if you
> just copy a
> pices sub. Check with the folks
> at Nuytco, maybe you can
> crawl around the
> sub with caliper in hand.  Perhaps you
> could even look at the drawings, I am sure they
> are with the
> sub.  When your done measuring
> the sub, swing by and we
> can go for a spin
> in a deep lake.
> Hank 
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