[PSUBS-MAILIST] Scott's new sub

Thu Jan 8 20:00:31 EST 2015

Alan,
Thank you very much. I think I can convence Katy to go to Honduras for some scuba diving and submarine diving. Haha.
Thanks,
Scott Waters

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From: Alan James via Personal_Submersibles <personal_submersibles at psubs.org> 
Date:01/08/2015  6:39 PM  (GMT-06:00) 
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Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Scott's new sub 

Scott,
my program gives me a 5682 ft crush depth for a 1" thick 60" I.D. sphere of 516 gr 70,
& a positive buoyancy of 1,370 lb.
If you were thinking along that line it might be worthwhile visiting Karl.
Alan

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Cool. Thanks Vance. Yea, where I am stuck currently is the pressure calcs on 516 gr 70. My question was how thick of 516 gr 70 for a 60" sphere would it have to be to handle 3300 feet (2000 psi for safety margin. My second question is how positivly or negatively boyant would that be. I can reaily get hemispherical heads of 516 gr 70.
Thanks,
Scott Waters

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You'll get plenty of encouragement from us, I would think, along with an appropriate amount of razzing. Don't worry about the nay-sayers. I would remind you that Karl Stanley has been listening to that shit for years. Well, not listening exactly, because he went ahead in spite of them, and looks pretty cheerful about the results. Who wouldn't be?

And speaking of Idabel, have you thought about multiple spheres? I talked to Karl in New Orleans a couple of years ago, and did some figuring afterwards. A couple of intersecting 5' spheres  with a free flooding sail and a few small cameras might get you a 5-tonnish sub. Do the big Perry style viewport in front with maybe some 12-inchers on either side in both hulls? Maybe a dome hatch/conn on top in the back sphere? It might need some foam to float, but that isn't much of a problem these days. Hmm.

Idabel's aft sphere and conning tower are A516GR70, in case you were wondering. You'd have to run some numbers. Maybe .75" wall? I'm not sure. Something to think about, anyway. And small is good for psubs, right?

Vance

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Thanks Alan!!! That really means alot to me. In my hobby, I don't get alot of encouragement from others untill I am sucsessful. It is nice to have it along the way!
Thanks again!,
Scott Waters

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From: Alan James via Personal_Submersibles 
Date:01/08/2015 2:13 PM (GMT-06:00) 
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Scott,
you made a K350 in record time & you are relatively young as a sub builder.
I would encourage you to build, as you will increase your
knowledge & skill base in the process & save money. Who knows where 
it will go from there.
Alan

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Sent: Thursday, January 8, 2015 5:44 PM
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Scott,

If you are okay with purchasing a 1000m sub rather than building it, then what are your thoughts on the Triton line?  Pricey?

Tim

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Sent: January-07-15 12:07 PM
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Hank,
The records I have of Pisces say they are made of HY-100 and capable to 2000 meters. 
1000 feet isn't enough of a challenge for me. My goal is 3,300 feet or more, but may have no choice to shallow it up because of material, but we will see. The plan is to have enough redundancy and enough safety features like jettisonable manipulator arms and even a jettisonable personel sphere that it is as safe as it can be at that depth.
Thanks,
Scott Waters

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From: hank pronk via Personal_Submersibles 
Date:01/07/2015 1:39 PM (GMT-06:00) 
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Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Scott's new sub 

Scott,
I thought Vance said they were 516-70, I must have read it wrong.  I don't know what your planning  with a 1,000m capable sub.  I can't imagine diving that deep with no means of rescue.  Are you planning on two subs maybe?  Don't get me wrong, I love the idea.  What about copying one in 516-70 and live with the depth capability.  I would imagine you could see 1,000 feet plus, a very respectable and affordable Psub. 
Hank--------------------------------------------
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I would
love to, except a Pisces is HY-100, which I am having a
terrible time getting that material. I'd love to go on a
deep dive with you though! I am going to Seneca lake New
York this April for some deep diving. Might be also going to
lake Michigan this year
too.Thanks,Scott Waters

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From: hank pronk via Personal_Submersibles  
Date:01/07/2015  12:23 PM  (GMT-06:00) 
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Subject: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Scott's new sub 

Hi Scott,
Maybe you could save some money and time if you just copy a
pices sub. Check with the folks at Nuytco, maybe you can
crawl around the sub with caliper in hand.  Perhaps you
could even look at the drawings, I am sure they are with the
sub.  When your done measuring the sub, swing by and we
can go for a spin in a deep lake.
Hank 
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