[PSUBS-MAILIST] Manipulator arm

Wed Jan 21 14:50:39 EST 2015

Not sure, but don't the "Deep Workers" have a hydraulic system using sea water, with externalpump & valves.Does anyone know anything about this?Alan
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My plan was to use O ring seal. I am using a comoensated system.Thanks,Scott Waters

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Scott,
You need to decide on what type of hyd system you are going with before you dive into cylinders.  If you are going with a pressure compensated system, you can use cylinders with a wiper seals on the shafts.  If you not pressure compensating, then use cylinders with o-ring seals on the shafts.  I would use o-ring sealed shafts regardless.
Hank--------------------------------------------
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 Gotcha.
 I got about 8 different suppliers I have found so far with
 SS cylinders. I think I'll order a few to play with. I
 am also planning on using electric silionoids for
 controlling the valves.Thanks,Scott
 Waters

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 Date:01/21/2015  6:54 AM  (GMT-06:00) 
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 Scott,
 Gamma uses air cylinders with hydraulic fluid and
 pump.  The hydraulic system is very standard except it
 uses air cylinders in place of hydraulic cylinders.  
 Hank--------------------------------------------
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  Is Gamma all air cylinders? Do you just use
  a air compressor? What happens to the air once it is in
 the
  cylinder and you want to lower the cylinder? Is it
  recompressed or somehow expelled? I really don't know
  crap about pnematics. Haha. Why do all the subs use
  hydrolics and not air. For example
  hydro-lek?Thanks,Scott
  Waters

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  Scott,
  Not sure why you want hydraulic cylinders.  You want
  air cylinders, they are light weight and all
 aluminum. 
  If you use 2 in bore air cylinders you can run on a 500
 psi
  system.  Also air cylinders typically have 5/8 rods
 and
  that is the most important part.  The rod size is
 what
  the water pressure is pushing back against you
 system. 
  Air cylinders have a single o ring on the piston and are
  cheap and easy to replace. If you want ss rods then just
  replace the chrome rods when they wear out.  I made
 my
  own rods for Gamma, easy peezy.
  Hank--------------------------------------------
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   Hydrolic.
   Also what size bore does yoursub have
   Hank?Thanks,Scott Waters

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   Are you using hydraulic cylinders or air cylinders.
   Hank--------------------------------------------
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    Does
    anyone have a reccomendation on a source for
  hydrolic
    cylinders? Ofcourse there are tons online, just
  wondering
   if
    someone has a particular place they like to get
    them.Thanks,Scott Waters

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