[PSUBS-MAILIST] saftey gear

James Frankland via Personal_Submersibles personal_submersibles at psubs.org
Wed Jul 1 05:09:28 EDT 2015


It has its own built in regulator that you can breath from and inflate the
jacket.  So you wouldn't really need a spare air.

On 1 July 2015 at 09:59, hank pronk via Personal_Submersibles <
personal_submersibles at psubs.org> wrote:

>
> James,
> That vest is very similar to the Stinke hood without the hood.  I find if
> the Stinke hood is manually inflated it is very manageable and I can get
> out of the sub easily.  When it is inflated from submarine hp air it is
> rock hard and restricts my movement.  Maybe your vest is a better option
> with a spare air.
> Hank
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> On Wed, 7/1/15, James Frankland via Personal_Submersibles <
> personal_submersibles at psubs.org> wrote:
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>  Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] saftey gear
>  To: "Personal Submersibles General Discussion" <
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>  Received: Wednesday, July 1, 2015, 4:50 AM
>
>  Hi
>  Hank, I have a Buddy Pacific ablj
>  which is an older type diving jacket (we used to call them
>  the "toilet seat").  Emile and Carsten did a load
>  of testing of escape and decided this was the best
>  compromise.  The jacket is a life jacket and also had a
>  small air tank, plus regulator so you can breath and fill
>  the jacket.  There is a manual dump valve for releasing
>  air.   I have done emergency ascents
>  using a similar type of jacket while doing diving training
>  and although the dump valve is manual, I have found that as
>  the air in the jacket expands as you ascent rapidly, the air
>  releases from the dump valve anyway, forcing its way past.
>  Its not ideal but the jacket stays
>  intact. Its one of these.
>
> http://www.thediveforum.com/showthread.php?2660-Dive-Shed-Clearout-(and-no-I-m-not-doing-fundies-yet-)
>  On 1 July 2015 at 00:29,
>  hank pronk via Personal_Submersibles <personal_submersibles at psubs.org>
>  wrote:
>  Hi
>  Alec,
>
>  Thank you, this has been on my mind lately.  I have the
>  same except for the inflatable vest.  I have plenty of room
>  to get the Stinke Hood on but I find it very cumbersome.
>
>  Hank
>
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>
>  On Tue, 6/30/15, Alec Smyth via Personal_Submersibles <
> personal_submersibles at psubs.org>
>  wrote:
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>
>
>   Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] saftey gear
>
>   To: "Personal Submersibles General Discussion"
>  <personal_submersibles at psubs.org>
>
>   Received: Tuesday, June 30, 2015, 9:03 AM
>
>
>
>   Hi
>
>   Hank,
>
>   Snoopy has a BIBS,
>
>   which would be used during cabin flooding. Each crew
>  member
>
>   wears a compact inflatable jacket that uses a CO2
>  cartridge
>
>   and has a Spare Air for a few breaths on the way up.
>
>   Although the life jackets do not have over-pressure
>  valves
>
>   like a Steinke hood, the amount of gas in the cartridge
>  is
>
>   limited and therefore the life jackets should not
>  explode.
>
>   My understanding is these cartridges have about 800 psi
>  in
>
>   them, so they should be able to inflate at depth albeit
>  much
>
>   more slowly than on the surface. I do expect they will
>  reach
>
>   only a fraction of their normal volume at depth given
>  the
>
>   amount of gas in the cartridge, so they will provide only
>  a
>
>   very slow start toward the surface. But the difficulty
>  with
>
>   the Steinke hoods is getting them on in such a confined
>
>   space. Maybe in the new sub I could store some spare
>  trawl
>
>   floats in the cabin (there's more space) for speeding
>  a
>
>   swimming ascent.
>
>
>
>   Best,
>
>
>
>   Alec
>
>
>
>   On Tue, Jun 30, 2015 at
>
>   8:07 AM, hank pronk via Personal_Submersibles <
> personal_submersibles at psubs.org>
>
>   wrote:
>
>   Alec,
>
>
>
>   What type of bailout equipment do you carry.  I have a
>
>   Steinke Hood but it is a squeeze to get through the
>  hatch
>
>   with it inflated.
>
>
>
>   Hank
>
>
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