[PSUBS-MAILIST] IMPORTANT - PLEASE READ

Tue Jul 28 10:10:45 EDT 2015

Jon, Alan has some good suggestion to help with migration. Nothing like a
deadline to motivate us to move.  BTW, using the Forum for the LED project
has worked pretty well.

Cliff

On Mon, Jul 27, 2015 at 6:35 PM, Alan James via Personal_Submersibles <
personal_submersibles at psubs.org> wrote:

> Jon,
> everyone would agree that you have done a great job behind the scenes
> keeping this group running. If you consider the web blog the way to go,
> how about giving notice of a closure of the email system with a 2 Week
> count down to give people an oportunity to register for the web blog & get
> their head around what's going on.
> Maybe an email every day "12 more days till close down" etc.
> Then 3 Weeks on the web based system to see how it goes before opening up
> the email again.?
> At least with the web based system if we don't get email notification of
> web posts
> due to spamming we can check on site.
> What do people reckon???
> Cheers Alan
>   ------------------------------
>  *From:* Jon Wallace via Personal_Submersibles <
> personal_submersibles at psubs.org>
> *To:* Personal Submersibles General Discussion <
> personal_submersibles at psubs.org>
> *Sent:* Sunday, July 26, 2015 3:36 PM
> *Subject:* [PSUBS-MAILIST] IMPORTANT - PLEASE READ
>
>
> Email is becoming a problem.  It is becoming more difficult to deal with
> the numerous ways internet providers are dealing with perceived spam,
> and PSUBS email is often interpreted as unsolicited mail even though
> I've been careful to configure it to comply with industry standards.
> The real problem is that internet providers in their zest to stop spam
> reaching their customers are implementing non-standard means to reach
> that end.
>
> You will recall that the latest "fix" was to make it look like those
> submitting mail to the list were actually doing so from the PSUBS
> server.  This is why emails now show "<your-name> via
> personal_submersibles" instead of the actual submitters email address as
> it use to be.  Additionally, more and more providers are simply blocking
> the PSUBS discussion list completely and we have no solution for that.
> This happened just recently to one of our members and the only solution
> was to get an account someplace (usually gmail or yahoo) that didn't
> block our discussion list.
>
> Bottom line is that when these spam issues arise it usually kills our
> discussions until I can get the time to determine what the real issue is
> and find a fix for it.  Worse, I never know if there is really a problem
> or if the list is just quiet, until someone contacts me personally and
> says they haven't seen any messages for a while.  I am finding I have
> less time overall to deal with email configuration issues and less
> desire to spend my time chasing after such solutions.  Therefore, I have
> resurrected web based forums on the website and set up various
> discussion forums.  I am not going to shut-off the email based
> discussions, but I am no longer going to provide technical support for
> them either.  For anyone that encounters email issues in the future, the
> answer will be, move over to the web-forum.
>
> It behooves us to start this process now while the email discussion list
> is still working adequately so we can resolve any issues with the
> web-forum.  So please take the time to register on the web-forum even if
> you still intend to use the email list as your primary means for now.  I
> personally prefer email to the web-forum, but I have finally raised the
> white-flag and capitulated because of the pain involved with trying to
> chase the anti-spam policies of major internet providers.
>
> Again, the email discussion list is not closing down, but I am no longer
> providing technical support for it.  The web based forum will become our
> "official" means of communication even though we (including me) may
> still use the email method.
>
> Jon
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