[PSUBS-MAILIST] Fwd: hemi heads

Keith Gordon via Personal_Submersibles personal_submersibles at psubs.org
Mon Nov 9 14:27:33 EST 2015


Hi Vance and Sean

I presume you are discussing the Pisces images I sent - yes gauges by port view port are - thruster position indicator &  pressure gauge for power pack output
Keith G

On 9/11/2015, at 3:07 PM, via Personal_Submersibles <personal_submersibles at psubs.org> wrote:

> i assume you mean the gauge shape on the outboard edge of the pilot's viewport (port side). That isn't a gauge. It is a mechanical (push pull cables) thruster angle indicator.
> Vance
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> From: Sean T. Stevenson via Personal_Submersibles <personal_submersibles at psubs.org>
> To: Personal Submersibles General Discussion <personal_submersibles at psubs.org>
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> Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Fwd: hemi heads
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> The external gauges are likely for the hydraulic system (pump, manipulators, etc.) pressures, as these would have no reason to be plumbed into the personnel sphere, and would represent a risk of contaminating the atmosphere in the event of a leak / spill.
> I did a lot of ROV projects in which mechanical gauges were similarly placed within a camera field of view. Much simpler and cheaper to piggyback on the video versus signal conditioning a transducer and sending that measurement separately up an umbilical.
> Sean
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> On November 8, 2015 4:51:14 PM MST, Pete Niedermayr via Personal_Submersibles <personal_submersibles at psubs.org> wrote:
> Hank, Please check out those external gauges.
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> Pete
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> On Sun, 11/8/15, Keith Gordon via Personal_Submersibles <personal_submersibles at psubs.org> wrote:
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>  Subject: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Fwd:  hemi heads
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>  To: "Personal Submersibles General Discussion" <personal_submersibles at psubs.org>
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>  Date: Sunday, November 8, 2015, 5:25 PM
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>  As discussed
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>  Hank have removed one image to reduce to 418 KB - will see
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>  how this goesKeith 
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>  Begin forwarded message:
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>  From:
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>  Keith
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>  Gordon <searov at xtra.co.nz>
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>  Subject:
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>  [PSUBS-MAILIST] hemi heads
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>  Date:
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>  9 November
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>  2015 9:34:32 AM NZDT
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>  Hi Hank
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>  Maybe of interest - I have attached some pix of
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>  Pisces 8 without her clothes on - 
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>  Cheers Keith Gordon
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>  On 9/11/2015,
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>  at
> 5:17 AM, hank pronk via Personal_Submersibles <personal_submersibles at psubs.org>
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>  Sean,By
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>  all means, anyone is welcome to any drawings I obtain or map
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>  from the Pisces.    I actually already
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>  have material price to machine the hatch from a solid disk
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>  of 516-70N  this way it is one piece with no welds.
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>   I just need the drawing first to order the
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>  disk.Hank
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>       On Sunday, November
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>  8, 2015 8:52 AM, Sean T. Stevenson via Personal_Submersibles
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>   I'd be
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>  interested in having a look at those drawings.  The
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>  idea with a
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>  conical bearing face on a hatch,
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>  if you are not trying to establish a
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>  metal-to-metal seal, is to provide a load path
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>  through the hatch itself
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>  to carry the shell
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>  stress that would otherwise require heavy
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>  reinforcement around the hole.  Thus,
> the
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>  "ideal" hatch would be the
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>  same
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>  thickness and curvature as the shell it is replacing,
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>  aligned to it
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>  so the load transfers straight
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>  through, with a flange on both the hatch
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>  and
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>  shell parts to create a substantial bearing face.  The
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>  conical angle
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>  in that case would be set by
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>  the hatch diameter, as the ideal interface
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>  angle would be perpendicular to the shell at
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>  every point.  I suspect
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>  that in
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>  practice, the cone is exaggerated beyond that, because
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>  we're
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>  talking about very small angles on
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>  larger spheres - on a PSub, perhaps
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>  it is
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>  more important.  The other advantage is of course the
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>  self-centering.
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>  Sean
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>  On 2015-11-07
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>  16:26, hank pronk via Personal_Submersibles wrote:
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>  Dr Nuytten thinks he has
> detail drawings
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>  that he is willing to share
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>  with me, if
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>  he can not find them, he has given me permission to
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>  measure
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>  one of his Pisces in the bone
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>  yard.   I may have a look for myself even
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>  with drawings, just because I am a visual
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>  guy- if I see it I can make
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>  it.  
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>  Besides, how fun is a day at the Nuytco bone yard :-)
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>  Hank 
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