[PSUBS-MAILIST] new video

roberto alvarez via Personal_Submersibles personal_submersibles at psubs.org
Tue Sep 1 12:57:07 EDT 2015


Just was a reference and dont told that you dont find coral, may be is an
ancient reminder of the past when that was a coral reef,

2015-09-01 8:29 GMT-08:00 hank pronk via Personal_Submersibles <
personal_submersibles at psubs.org>:

> I use the term coral because that is what the Provincial Park operator
> called it.
> Hank
>
>
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> On Tuesday, September 1, 2015 10:08 AM, roberto alvarez via
> Personal_Submersibles <personal_submersibles at psubs.org> wrote:
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>
> Hi, i found on a lake in mexicali baja ca were i live a litlle red worm,
> this worm build similar structures as use the mud to buld structures
> similar to the coral formations, is not coral just complicate mud
> structures were another underwater critters live, plants grow and are full
> of ilfe, may be is something that need more study
>
> 2015-09-01 4:23 GMT-08:00 hank pronk via Personal_Submersibles <
> personal_submersibles at psubs.org>:
>
> Alan,
> It is not my discovery, it is well known that the coral exists in Premier
> Lake.
> Tim, we should plan a trip to Pavilion Lake with Gamma for the spring.  I
> will put a trim tank in Gamma so there is no risk of hitting the bottom.  I
> have been thinking about a plastic trim tank anyways to reduce the dry
> weight of the sub after the pod is on.  The down side of the pod is the
> extra towing weight.
> Hank
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>
>
> On Tuesday, September 1, 2015 12:34 AM, Alan James via
> Personal_Submersibles <personal_submersibles at psubs.org> wrote:
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>
> OK Hank,
> you might have to think up a name for your new discovery.
> Any suggestions???
> Alan
>
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> *From:* T Novak via Personal_Submersibles <personal_submersibles at psubs.org
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> *To:* 'Personal Submersibles General Discussion' <
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> *Sent:* Tuesday, September 1, 2015 5:16 PM
> *Subject:* Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] new video
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> This looks really interesting, Hank, Alan.  They look very similar to
> shallow water microbialites in Pavilion Lake that I took photos of five
> years ago.
>
> Do you have a close-up photo of this stuff?  What depth was this video
> taken?  It is worth investigating further.
>
> The so called "fresh water coral" in Pavilion Lake is cyano-bacteria
> microbialites.  Very common in fossil form but ridiculously rare in living
> form.  So far found living only in Pavilion Lake and Kelly Lake in BC, and
> in a high mountain lake in Chile.  That's really about it.  I will send the
> video link to Donnie Reid at Nuytco, who is the project manager for the
> ongoing NASA Pavilion Lake Research Project (PLRP).  PLRP was a significant
> joint NASA and CSA space analogue project investigating these ancient life
> forms that may be similar to life, or fossil life, located on Mars.  For
> several years Nuytco had the DW2000's in Pavilion and trained various
> American and Canadian astronauts and astrobiologists in space analogue
> research.  NASA had their Mobile Mission Control Center there as well.  I
> dropped in on the 2010 , 2011, and 2014 events in my official capacity as
> PLRP groupie (actually, in 2010 I  visited as the project manager for the
> BC Institute of Technology Underwater Observatory project).  PLRP is now a
> much scaled down NASA funded project, mostly out of NASA Ames Research
> Center with researchers from several American and Canadian universities
> attending.  Of course, Nuytco now provides DW2000's for NASA's NEEMO
> missions at the Aquarius manned undersea habitat off Key Largo.
>
> Check out the web site www.pavilionlake.com.
>
> Pavilion Lake is a very clear lake, but not because the microbialites are
> filter feeders.  The microbiologists and limnologists are still trying to
> figure these creatures out.  Take note that Pavilion Lake has very
> restrictive diving regulations.  There are only two sites where scuba
> diving is allowed.  Subs are not specifically mentioned in the
> restrictions, but NASA and CSA get special permits from the feds and
> province to operate outside of those designated areas for sub-surface
> operations (divers, ROV's, and submersibles).  Surprisingly, gasoline
> powered vessels are still allowed on the lake.  We checked out the launch
> ramp last summer and you should be able to launch your sub from your
> current trailer without unhooking.  But bring the tow straps just in case.
> Apart from the microbialites growing on anything solid (rocks, logs,
> sticks, pop cans), the bottom is soft.
>
> 2010 anecdote: DW2000's are actually quite noisy underwater.
>
> Tim
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>
>
>
> *From:* Personal_Submersibles [mailto:
> personal_submersibles-bounces at psubs.org] *On Behalf Of *Alan via
> Personal_Submersibles
> *Sent:* August-30-15 9:15 PM
> *To:* Personal Submersibles General Discussion <
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> *Subject:* Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] new video
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> Your link went to the official "Pepper Pig" site.
> Try this
> https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=i_KaFRz8Vpk
> Cool, be interesting to see if anyones found the coral in that Lake before.
> Tim has marine biology interests, wonder if he knows anything about it.
> Alan
>
> Sent from my iPad
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> On 31/08/2015, at 11:38 am, hank pronk via Personal_Submersibles <
> personal_submersibles at psubs.org> wrote:
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> I just posted two video's from today's dive.  Amazing  freshwater coral
> images.  Youtube.com <http://youtube.com/> under Hank Pronk
> Hank
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