[PSUBS-MAILIST] Welding

Alan James via Personal_Submersibles personal_submersibles at psubs.org
Thu Apr 28 22:11:50 EDT 2016


Thanks Hugh,I am wavering; I had ideas of welding fins on to the centralsection to support the kort nozzle & the plug may come in handy for that, however with fins on I wouldn't be able to do post weld machining.Might do the first housing as a bolt together & experiment with a weldedversion later.Alan


      From: Hugh Fulton via Personal_Submersibles <personal_submersibles at psubs.org>
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Sent: Friday, 29 April 2016 11:48 a.m.
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Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Welding  Hugh,went & talked with a welding specialist this morning who seemed to thinkthe plug idea would be good. His only reservations were whether I couldget the plug out afterward. I said it would be designed to be able to bepressed out.The bearing seat is some distance from the welding & has a thick sectionof aluminum between. See attachment (not dimensionally correct).The plug should stop the tube section from distorting, shouldn't it.I have 6 of these to make initially & it will be a lot less work if I can weld.I need to go with the steel plug as an aluminum plug could get damagedin the pressing process.Am I convincing you or does this still get the thumbs down?Cheers Alan  From: Hugh Fulton via Personal_Submersibles <personal_submersibles at psubs.org>
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Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Welding
Alan,
Stay away from welding or completely re-machine as Hank says otherwise you
will havev concentricity issues with the bearings etc.
Besides Aluminium will be a better heat sink than a steel insert.  Hugh 


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