[PSUBS-MAILIST] Sub on a Zodiac carrier was AW: Maynard's sub boat
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Datum: 2016-08-12T04:48:49+0200
Von: "hank pronk via Personal_Submersibles"
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Doug,
I think the zodiac is a great idea, you will have to play with an easy way
to attach and detach. You might want to consider a CT enclosure like Emile
has. That should be easy enough to rig up on Snoopy. The way a K250 is
built is not ideal for big seas, but you have options. As mentioned the
Clear CT enclosure, you could even look at a K350 style CT with a regular
hatch. I would go with a small 18 inch hatch to keep it real light. It
would be a piece of cake to add a new removable CT. You could have it as
an option, depending on dive conditions.
Hank
On Thursday, August 11, 2016 7:29 PM, Douglas Suhr via
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Prohibited weapons aside, yes I like the idea of going the zodiac route for
these reasons: cheap, simple and big bumper. Just not sure how well it
would work with a tall/tankish design like Snoopy's.
Last April we took the Whaler out onto the Atlantic several miles out. That
boat is one of the sturdiest boats I've ever set foot on, but at 25 feet,
it was getting tossed like a bathtub toy during a temper tantrum (it was a
two hands day), and the seas weren't bad that day by any means... 3 foot
waves. I'm trying to picture doing anything in the ocean with a support
barge and I just can't... unless it were just flat calm. Point for Zodiac
design. Maybe two Zodiacs I-beamed together with the sub slung in the
middle? ~ Doug S.
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Sorry wrong email replied to.
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I was just reading the news article about the terrorist they shot
yesterday in Strathroy... It seems they caught him one already and
released him on a peace bond - one of the conditions of which was that he
had to surrender any firearms and prohibited weapons.
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Hi Doug,
Are you thinking about taking the bottom out of a zodiac and driving the
sub into it. That is way better than a barge in my mind. You get the
benefit of flotation as well as a big ass bumper.
I had a crane on a barge and that worked well in the lake but in ocean
swells, that barge would beat a sub to death. I used a long sling on the
hook so that the sub did not come in contact with steel bouncing around.
But lakes are very tame in comparison.
Hank
On Thursday, August 11, 2016 4:10 PM, Douglas Suhr via
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Thwarted again by the 250's height! I really like this kind of
arrangement for it's simplicity though. And I think as far as keeping it
small, this might be the best way to manage launch and recovery in a
rough sea state. ~ Doug
On Thu, Aug 11, 2016 at 4:11 PM, Alan James via Personal_Submersibles <
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Yes, came through Carsten.
That's an interesting variation of what I've been suggesting.
I was looking at a K250 on a trailer; and they are fairly deep,
which would make it hard to design something like this to work
successfully.
It might start Cliff thinking, his sub would work well with a similar
design.
Alan
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Subject: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Sub on a Zodiac carrier was AW: Maynard's sub
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First picture. (testfile if the size work on these Psuns mails)
vbr Carsten
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Datum: 2016-08-10T17:11:58+0200
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Hi carsten,
It would be great if you could find a picture. Sounds interesting.
Regards
James
On 10 August 2016 at 11:47, MerlinSub at t-online.de
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I have done such a concept for SOVI (Shark Observer vecicle) in South
Africa.
Was a semi flooding towing RIB behind a Motorboot with over 20 knots
towing speed.
Will search for a picture.
vbr Carsten
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Datum: 2016-08-10T06:05:53+0200
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This was a concept I was thinking about a while back.
Excuse the sketch.
The idea is to have a boat with twin outboards, & a consul up front.
You raise the motors & pump enough water into the side pontoons to be
able to drive the sub in & out. Maybe some assistance with a winch
when returning would be required. If the unit was designed properly
with a floor that could take the weight of the sub, then you could
trailer
both simultaneously. Alan
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Hey, a sub on a sub!! I like it! �
Keith T
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Date: 8/9/16 6:56 PM (GMT-08:00)
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You mean like this Brian,
http://oceanexplorer.noaa.gov/ technology/subs/pisces/pisces-
training.html
<http://oceanexplorer.noaa.gov/technology/subs/pisces/pisces-training.html>
I was trying to describe this in an earlier post.
Alan
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On 10/08/2016, at 12:50 pm, Brian Cox via Personal_Submersibles <
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Seems like there ought to be a way to have another submersible
platform which cradles the K boat, then submerge to the bottom
leaving the "carrier boat" sitting on the bottom until ur ready
to go back home, then link back up with the carrier boat and
surface. The carrier boat would need to be big enough to travel
on the surface and keep the conning tower well above the surface
to avoid flooding. Of course many challenges with something like
that.
Brian
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Thanks for the history Vance, did not know. ~ Doug S.
On Tue, Aug 9, 2016 at 7:25 PM, via Personal_Submersibles <
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I sent a response via phone and haven't seen it. To repeat: I
do have some of George's original drawings on his tender. Web's
was a takeoff on that design and not terribly successful due to
poor load carrying capacity and so on. It worked, but was
pretty restricted in what it could do. George's was better,
hands down. 44' long as I recall. It started life with China
diesels which were achingly slow, and ended up with a couple of
junkyard 250 cid Chevy in-line 6 truck engines that worked very
well. And were cheap, which was an important consideration for
ANY consideration for the Captain.
Vance
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Did Maynard ever produce/release plans for his sub carrier,
Tender Nellie? I never saw it in person, but pictures lives on
the net.
http://johnmaynard.tripod.com/ sub2.html
<http://johnmaynard.tripod.com/sub2.html>
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