[PSUBS-MAILIST] Vessel salvage

T Novak via Personal_Submersibles personal_submersibles at psubs.org
Mon Feb 8 14:34:37 EST 2016


Good question, Hank.

Wrecks are often owned by individuals or corporations.  Military wrecks are owned in perpetuity by the original country of flag.  Unless the owner publicly relinquishes ownership, an abandoned vessel is still owned by the original owner and is not finders keepers.  Maritime law is very specific in that someone who salvages an abandoned vessel may earn a reward for their efforts based on the risks taken, but the vessel and all fittings and cargo are still owned by the original vessel owner.  Wreckers don't have a lot of legal footing these days.  All that 1700's Spanish gold all over the east coast still really belongs to Spain, but they have only just now started chasing their rights on more recent wrecks. When you find that Spanish Galleon wrecked in Lake Minnewanka you better get a lawyer.

The Titanic requires a permit from someone and would likely only allow looking but no touching, and certainly no taking.

Tim

 

 

Here is BC any vessel on the bottom for two years or more is owned by the province. 

From: Personal_Submersibles [mailto:personal_submersibles-bounces at psubs.org] On Behalf Of hank pronk via Personal_Submersibles
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Scott,

I bet it is well protected, I am sure a sub with no manipulators could get approval.  Who decides anyways? the people that took what they want already? 

Hank

 

On Monday, February 8, 2016 11:36 AM, via Personal_Submersibles <personal_submersibles at psubs.org <mailto:personal_submersibles at psubs.org> > wrote:

 

I actually think the RMS Titanic is at 12,500 fsw and I believe has pretty strict rules and permits required to dive it.

 

-Scott Waters 

 

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From: "Sean T. Stevenson via Personal_Submersibles"
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Date: Mon, February 08, 2016 11:18 am
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Titanic is sitting at 8000 fsw. That's a tight payload budget to design within without a foam block or more exotic hull material.

Sean

 

On February 8, 2016 8:38:39 AM MST, hank pronk via Personal_Submersibles <personal_submersibles at psubs.org <mailto:personal_submersibles at psubs.org> > wrote: 

If I have a good year this year, I hope to build a Titanic capable sub exactly the same as what I am building now but much heavier of coarse.   I will have EE weld it together and I will have the machining done for me also.

Hank

 

On Monday, February 8, 2016 7:30 AM, Sean ! T. Stevenson via Personal_Submersibles <personal_submersibles at psubs.org <mailto:personal_submersibles at psubs.org> > wrote:

 

Funny, I could say the same thing about your budget.  ;-)

Sean

 

On February 8, 2016 6:27:59 AM MST, hank pronk via Personal_Submersibles <personal_submersibles at psubs.org <mailto:personal_submersibles at psubs.org> > wrote: 

Hi Sean,

Thank you for your efforts with your programs, they have been a huge help to me.   If I had your knowledge, I would be looking out my  port at the Titanic.

Hank

 

On Saturday, February 6, 2016 7:03 ! AM, Jon Wallace via Personal_Submersibles <personal_submersibles at psubs.org <mailto:personal_submersibles at psubs.org> > w! rote:

 


The latest version of the STS Sub Design Software written by Sean 
Stevenson is up on the web site.

WWW.PSUBS.ORG <http://www.psubs.org/>  -> Resources & Reference -> Design Tools -> Calculators & 
Data Sheets


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