[PSUBS-MAILIST] CAD for presentation

Cliff Redus via Personal_Submersibles personal_submersibles at psubs.org
Fri May 27 09:52:31 EDT 2016


Scott, I have been thinking about your request for CAD assistance for
upcoming presentation.  I think with your Pisces VI build, you really have
both tactical and strategic technical drawing needs.  Let look at the long
range strategic need first.  Because you are going to make some changes to
the boat, ABS is going to make you submit a report that among other things
has a drawings set that reflects the current build, a weights and balance
and buoyant accounting that rolls up the new CG and CB of the boat and a
stress analysis of the pressure hull both in the form of the ABS hull
stress calculations and an FEA.    The best way to get these is through a
3-D modeling package like Autodesk Inventor Pro or Solidworks.  My
suggestion is to invest in one of the software packages and take a basic
3-D modeling training course on the software.  You then crawl into the
belly of the beast with your tape measure and digital caliper and take the
dimensions of each part and then model it in the 3-D modeling software.
After you get all the parts modeled, you them make up assemblies of these
parts that will enable you to turn out the 2-D prints of the parts and
assemblies.   From this 3-D model, of your Pisces VI, you then can extract
the CB, CG of the boat.  All of these 3-D software packages let you export
STEP files of the model that can be read by the FEA software Sean uses.  If
you pay some one to build this 3-D model, first of all it will cost a lot
of money and every time you change anything you will have to go back the
guy for an update.  In the long run, having this skill set (3-D modeling)
will be very useful for future mechanical projects off all types.

>From a tactical perspective, what people are most interested in, from my
perspective, on your renovation is what is the state of the boat at the
time you acquired it documented by lots of pictures, and what the big
pictures is on what you think you will need to do to get your ABS
A1 recertification and lastly what are the major structural changes you are
planning.  I don't know how much time you have for your presentation but my
guess is 20 minutes or so.  If this is the case, on average you can count
on about 1 min per slide so you have 20 slides to present.  This does not
leave much time for presenting CAD work.  You might be able to get away
with the basic drawing tools in Power point for these few slides on the
changes.

Make sure you put a slide in for your new mega shop which we are all
salivating over and how you are going to dive this boat when your done in
Kansas!

Cliff

On Thu, May 26, 2016 at 10:41 AM, via Personal_Submersibles <
personal_submersibles at psubs.org> wrote:

> OK. Thanks for the information
>
> Scott Waters
>
> >  -------Original Message-------
> >  From: Brian Cox via Personal_Submersibles <
> personal_submersibles at psubs.org>
> >  To: Personal Submersibles General Discussion <
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> >  Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] CAD for presentation
> >  Sent: May 26 '16 10:30
> >
> >  Yeah, but it's very intuitive once you get into it.  Plus you could
> generate data to make parts using a CNC.  More computer power = good thing !
> >
> >  Brian
> >
> >  --- personal_submersibles at psubs.org wrote:
> >
> >  From: via Personal_Submersibles <personal_submersibles at psubs.org>
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> personal_submersibles at psubs.org>
> >  Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] CAD for presentation
> >  Date: Thu, 26 May 2016 09:30:35 -0500
> >
> >  I am worried about the amount of time it would take me to learn to be
> good with the software. From my understanding, it is quite the ramp up time.
> >
> >  Thank you,
> >  Scott Waters
> >
> >  >  -------Original Message-------
> >  >  From: Brian Cox via Personal_Submersibles <
> personal_submersibles at psubs.org>
> >  >  To: Personal Submersibles General Discussion <
> personal_submersibles at psubs.org>
> >  >  Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] CAD for presentation
> >  >  Sent: May 25 '16 19:09
> >  >
> >  >  Scott,   You might want to think about getting set up with "machine
> works" it's a type of cad program that integrates into CNC and also has
> some FEA capability ( very advanced stuff) .  But you would need some
> serious computer power to run the program.  But then designed components
> could then be coded for machining, it has extensive modeling etc.. ,  state
> of the art stuff.   -  Brian
> >  >
> >  >  --- personal_submersibles at psubs.org wrote:
> >  >
> >  >  From: via Personal_Submersibles <personal_submersibles at psubs.org>
> >  >  To: PSUBS <personal_submersibles at psubs.org>
> >  >  Subject: [PSUBS-MAILIST] CAD for presentation
> >  >  Date: Wed, 25 May 2016 15:06:13 -0500
> >  >
> >  >  I was wondering if anyone could help me out. I am planning on doing
> a presentation at Underwater Intervention about the Pisces VI submarine. I
> am wanting to show the components of the submarine how the sub originally
> was and then how we are changing it. I am not trained in CAD and was
> wondering if there is someone out there that could easily do this?
> >  >
> >  >  Thank you,
> >  >  Scott Waters
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