[PSUBS-MAILIST] overlay welding

Tue Nov 15 12:16:11 EST 2016

Hank,

I just looked up on my site how I did it.  I didnt use rods, I used wire
and sprayed it on.  Not sure what that wire was.  I don't think I used it
for anything else as im not really keen on SS mig method, but it wire was
probably 316L wire.  Whatever, it machined ok.

I definitely used 309mo rods for all the dissimilar joints though.

http://www.guernseysubmarine.com/publication2_files/Page15707.htm

On 15 November 2016 at 13:27, hank pronk via Personal_Submersibles <
personal_submersibles at psubs.org> wrote:

> Hi Hames,
> Thanks' that is interesting, I remember now that the K subs require that
> on their pods.   I have to use wire feed, but I am less afraid now.  I gave
> my stick welder to my brother.
> Hank
>
>
> On Tuesday, November 15, 2016 4:08 AM, James Frankland via
> Personal_Submersibles <personal_submersibles at psubs.org> wrote:
>
>
> Hank,
> When I made the battery pod ends, I initially clad them.  I used 309mo
> (which is what is specified for the dissimilar joints so I already had
> some).  It machined fine and according to the spec, has good corrosion
> resistance.
>
> In the end, I didn't go with that method as I couldn't get it thick enough
> and kept machining too much off so I gave up and did it a different way.
>
> might be worth a look?  http://www.magmaweld.com/ei_
> 309mol_stainless_steel_stick_electrode.html
> James
>
>
> On 15 November 2016 at 03:20, Hugh Fulton via Personal_Submersibles <
> personal_submersibles at psubs.org> wrote:
>
> Hi Hank,
> 303 SS is easiest to machine.  Better than 304.  However there is the
> corrosion issue.
> Google it for properties.  Hugh
>
> *From:* Personal_Submersibles [mailto:personal_submersibles-
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> *Subject:* Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] overlay welding
>
> Brian,
> Overlay welding is very common-Gamma has overlay weld on the hatch land.
> I do fully expect it to warp, but the overlay weld will be sufficiently
> thick to machine it true again.  I will order some ss wire and weld up a
> shaft and see how it machines in my lathe before I jump into this.  I can
> always hang it upside down in a vat to nickel plate it.
> Hank
>
> On Monday, November 14, 2016 7:38 PM, Brian Cox via Personal_Submersibles <personal_submersibles at psubs.
> org <personal_submersibles at psubs.org>> wrote:
>
> Would not really be feasible to do that, Hank, It's very tough material
> first of all, and I want to be able to change props to tweet performance.
> I don't want some odd ball prop connection that is not compatible with the
> rest of the world.
>
>   You could have the thing machined perfect ( or you do it)  first before
> you put it on, then machine out any warp-age .  I think you're asking for
> trouble doing a overlay.  That could warp as well.
>
> Brian
>
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> wrote:
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> From: hank pronk via Personal_Submersibles <personal_submersibles at psubs.
> org <personal_submersibles at psubs.org>>
> To: Personal Submersibles General Discussion <personal_submersibles at psubs.
> org <personal_submersibles at psubs.org>>
> Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] overlay welding
> Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2016 01:02:20 +0000 (UTC)
> Brian,
> That would be tough because the seat is conical, also it will be much
> cheaper to overlay weld.
> Why don't you make a bolt on axel extension to hold the prop.  machine the
> axel hub down so it is just big enough to bolt to it.
> Hank
>
> On Monday, November 14, 2016 5:30 PM, Brian Cox via Personal_Submersibles <personal_submersibles at psubs.
> org <personal_submersibles at psubs.org>> wrote:
>
> Hank,    Why don't you just weld on a stainless ring an inch or so thick
> and then machine that?
>
> Brian
>
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> wrote:
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> From: hank pronk via Personal_Submersibles <personal_submersibles at psubs.
> org <personal_submersibles at psubs.org>>
> To: Personal Submersibles General Discussion <personal_submersibles at psubs.
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> Subject: [PSUBS-MAILIST] overlay welding
> Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2016 00:17:56 +0000 (UTC)
> Hi All,
> I am back to work on Elementary 3000 and first on the list is to overlay
> weld my hatch seat with stainless steel and machine it down again.  I am
> building a vertical turret lathe instead of using my flange facing
> machine.  I am building the lathe as an experiment also for a future
> project.
> My question is, what type of SS wire should I use.  There is a chance that
> the sub will see salt water.   I need to keep in mind that the material
> needs to be machining friendly.
> Hank
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