[PSUBS-MAILIST] Fw: Taurus sub

Mon Sep 5 17:41:39 EDT 2016

If you like to go autonomus offshore an look out diver this is probably a 
cheap way. Maybe the cheapest ever.
If you like to operate just a private submarine for pleasure - this is a 
really expensive way.

Seems it depends on you targets.
I original search for a second hand military one - small size 450 ts or so.
Than decide that it is cheaper on the long term to build my own with 70 ts 
instead have a permanent crew of 12 or so.

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Tim,
The dream is only dead if you let it die.  You should not go through life 
wanting something.  I deal with a shipping broker that can give you a 
shipping cost.  Make them an offer-- at least you can feel good that you 
tried.  There will not be a line up to buy the Taurus sub.  Anyone in a 
position to own and operate such a sub can buy one ready to go and 
certified.  That leaves people like us to buy the obsolete subs.  
Hank

On Monday, September 5, 2016 11:03 AM, T Novak via Personal_Submersibles 
<personal_submersibles at psubs.org> wrote:

Sounds like she would be perfect as an ambient habitat.  Built by Hyco is 
good.  It is probably cheaper to have a habitat built in Vancouver than to 
have this bus shipped here.  Alan's right, the dream is probably a 
nightmare unless big dollars are happily available.
Tim

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Locking out was a possibility but never the intent. Taurus was designed to 
carry heavy valve replacements and the like to and from seabed work 
stations, using a dry transfer system. She worked (occasionally) in the 
North Sea (<350 meters depth) and was built to compete with the PC-16s from 
Perry, which were actually never used in the North Sea, but were kept busy 
in the Med, instead. In any case, Taurus's dry transfer hatch is enormous 
to accommodate some specific kind of valve and or valve manifold--the dry 
transfer chamber could be equalized or pressurized as occasion demanded. 
And she has a BUNCH of compensated batteries, very much like a Pisces (only 
arranged low and along the sides, rather than in the middle). She is, as 
you might imagine, a bit of a bus. And roomy? Oh my, yes.
Vance

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360 liter oxygen per person all 24 hours. Equal 1 - 2 USD.
And Second hand scrubber material from you rebreather diver friends.
Nearly nothing.

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It could be a nightmare Tim, & S.A. is a long way to go to check it out.
We do have a psub member in S.A.
It does have the diver lockout, but are you after a 1atm habitat or 
ambient?
What would the cost be in 02 & scrubbing per person per 24hrs?
Alan

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On 5/09/2016, at 5:55 pm, T Novak via Personal_Submersibles <
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    Alan,
    You nailed it with the underwater habitat thought.  At 21fsw hatch
    pressure this vessel would require just a coat of new paint.  I should
    bid $10,000.  With shipping it might just work out.  Hmmm.
    Tim

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    Tim,
    I am not sure whether this is the same submarine, i.e. were there more
    than one Taurus
     built. It does mention That it was deployed in South Africa though.
    Certainly the one on
    Ebay didn't look dive ready. 
    Maybe a ready made underwater habitat! I am sure you could talk the
    price down.
    Alan

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    On 5/09/2016, at 3:17 pm, T Novak via Personal_Submersibles <
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        Good find, Alan.
        Why does Silvercrest state that Taurus is "immediately available
        for worldwide underwater operations" if this boat is in the middle
        of an interrupted overhaul?  If Hank's used sub valuation guideline
        applies then this one is worth $120,000 in dive ready condition. 
        However, it's a very larger "personal sub" so perhaps the guideline
        does not apply.  Overhauling the systems and ABS recertification
        would likely cost than that amount again.  Serious money required. 
        Pretty cool, though.
        Tim

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        There are some specs on this Silvercrest site.
        http://www.silvercrestsubmarines.co.uk/taurusinfo.html
        <http://www.silvercrestsubmarines.co.uk/taurusinfo.html>
        Would hate to think what you may be in for, getting it up
        to scratch. 8 view ports to replace?
        Alan

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        Hello All,
        Yesterday I came across the Taurus Submarine on eBay , she is 22
        tons with diver lock out.   It is in South Africa, that is not bad
        if your in Europe, Carsten?
        Hank

        On Sunday, September 4, 2016 6:28 PM, xxx xxxxx <mp13 at live.ca
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        http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Scientific-Taurus-Submarine-/122109506536?hash=item1c6e4b33e8:g:V60AAOSwvzRXxto-&vxp=mtr
        <http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Scientific-Taurus-Submarine-/122109506536?hash=item1c6e4b33e8:g:V60AAOSwvzRXxto-&vxp=mtr>
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