[PSUBS-MAILIST] Fw: Taurus sub
Marc de Piolenc via Personal_Submersibles
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Wed Sep 7 06:57:00 EDT 2016
Sounds like Simon Lake's early work.
Marc
On 9/7/2016 3:41 PM, Alan via Personal_Submersibles wrote:
> Tim,
> I like Hanks idea of finding a large cylinder with it's pressure
> resistant form.
> You could possibly pick one up very cheaply.
> Even though you are going ambient for the habitat, you can only equalise
> the
> pressure to one point in the water column.
> So at 5ft high with a moon pool entrance, the top of the habitat would
> be at a 2.5 psi
> internal pressure above ambient. Doesn't sound like much but if you
> multiply it out
> it is 360 pounds per square ft.
> I am a fan of putting motors on these habitats, to make them easy to put
> in position
> & relocate. I know this now sounds very much like a large ambient
> submarine, but
> why not! With a little bit more effort, you could double as both.
> Alan
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> Sent from my iPad
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> On 7/09/2016, at 4:12 pm, T Novak via Personal_Submersibles
> <personal_submersibles at psubs.org
> <mailto:personal_submersibles at psubs.org>> wrote:
>
>> Hi Hank,
>>
>> I want something reasonably transportable (light) so that I can deploy
>> it most anywhere.
>>
>> The BCIT habitat is designed as a 10ft long, 5ft wide, 5ft high box.
>> This creates a 15,000 pound buoyant force resulting in a dry weight
>> close to 20,000 pounds. For me personally, low volume is the key to
>> keeping it towable by my truck. Under 10,000 pounds for sure,
>> preferred somewhere around 6,000 pounds. A cylinder 8ft long with 4ft
>> dia might be okay. At this point I am thinking about a habitat the
>> size of a 3-man tent (but made of steel or fiberglass). Ambient
>> pressure internally means that not a lot of structure is required
>> (inexpensive) and low volume means easy deployment. The other issue is
>> where to worki on it. I don't have sufficient shop space at this
>> time, but hopefully soon. My dream is not dead yet, just constantly
>> postponed.
>>
>> Tim
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>> *From:*Personal_Submersibles
>> [mailto:personal_submersibles-bounces at psubs.org] *On Behalf Of *hank
>> pronk via Personal_Submersibles
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, September 6, 2016 5:16 AM
>> *To:* Personal Submersibles General Discussion
>> <personal_submersibles at psubs.org <mailto:personal_submersibles at psubs.org>>
>> *Subject:* Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Fw: Taurus sub
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>> Hi Tim,
>>
>> How big are you thinking for a habitat. Where would you put it? can
>> you plunk it down anywhere you like? Heck I have seen big tanks on
>> skids that could be modified in a weekend. Give me some idea of max
>> and min size and I will keep an eye out for one. Actually I have a
>> tank on skids you can have for free. I got it to build a bigger sub
>> but can't seem to pull the trigger. The tank is 21 feet long 5 feet
>> dia on a skid 11\16 shell and 7\8 heads.
>>
>> Hank
>>
>>
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>> On Monday, September 5, 2016 11:03 AM, T Novak via
>> Personal_Submersibles <personal_submersibles at psubs.org
>> <mailto:personal_submersibles at psubs.org>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> Sounds like she would be perfect as an ambient habitat. Built by Hyco
>> is good. It is probably cheaper to have a habitat built in Vancouver
>> than to have this bus shipped here. Alan's right, the dream is
>> probably a nightmare unless big dollars are happily available.
>>
>> Tim
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:*Personal_Submersibles
>> [mailto:personal_submersibles-bounces at psubs.org] *On Behalf Of *via
>> Personal_Submersibles
>> *Sent:* Monday, September 5, 2016 8:20 AM
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>> *Subject:* Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Fw: Taurus sub
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>> Locking out was a possibility but never the intent. Taurus was
>> designed to carry heavy valve replacements and the like to and from
>> seabed work stations, using a dry transfer system. She worked
>> (occasionally) in the North Sea (<350 meters depth) and was built to
>> compete with the PC-16s from Perry, which were actually never used in
>> the North Sea, but were kept busy in the Med, instead. In any case,
>> Taurus's dry transfer hatch is enormous to accommodate some specific
>> kind of valve and or valve manifold--the dry transfer chamber could be
>> equalized or pressurized as occasion demanded. And she has a BUNCH of
>> compensated batteries, very much like a Pisces (only arranged low and
>> along the sides, rather than in the middle). She is, as you might
>> imagine, a bit of a bus. And roomy? Oh my, yes.
>>
>> Vance
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: MerlinSub at t-online.de <mailto:MerlinSub at t-online.de> via
>> Personal_Submersibles <personal_submersibles at psubs.org
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>> Sent: Mon, Sep 5, 2016 10:47 am
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>> 360 liter oxygen per person all 24 hours. Equal 1 - 2 USD.
>>
>> And Second hand scrubber material from you rebreather diver friends.
>>
>> Nearly nothing.
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>> Betreff: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Fw: Taurus sub
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>> Datum: 2016-09-05T10:00:54+0200
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>> Von: "Alan via Personal_Submersibles" <personal_submersibles at psubs.org
>> <mailto:personal_submersibles at psubs.org>>
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>> An: "Personal Submersibles General Discussion"
>> <personal_submersibles at psubs.org <mailto:personal_submersibles at psubs.org>>
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>> It could be a nightmare Tim, & S.A. is a long way to go to check it out.
>>
>> We do have a psub member in S.A.
>>
>> It does have the diver lockout, but are you after a 1atm habitat or
>> ambient?
>>
>> What would the cost be in 02 & scrubbing per person per 24hrs?
>>
>> Alan
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>> Sent from my iPad
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>> On 5/09/2016, at 5:55 pm, T Novak via Personal_Submersibles
>> <personal_submersibles at psubs.org
>> <mailto:personal_submersibles at psubs.org>> wrote:
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>> Alan,
>>
>> You nailed it with the underwater habitat thought. At 21fsw hatch
>> pressure this vessel would require just a coat of new paint. I
>> should bid $10,000. With shipping it might just work out. Hmmm.
>>
>> Tim
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:*Personal_Submersibles
>> [mailto:personal_submersibles-bounces at psubs.org] *On Behalf Of
>> *Alan vio a Personal_Submersibles
>> *Sent:* Sunday, September 4, 2016 8:46 PM
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>> <personal_submersibles at psubs.org
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>> *Subject:* Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Fw: Taurus sub
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>> Tim,
>>
>> I am not sure whether this is the same submarine, i.e. were there
>> more than one Taurus
>>
>> built. It does mention That it was deployed in South Africa
>> though. Certainly the one on
>>
>> Ebay didn't look dive ready.
>>
>> Maybe a ready made underwater habitat! I am sure you could talk
>> the price down.
>>
>> Alan
>>
>> Sent from my iPad
>>
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>> On 5/09/2016, at 3:17 pm, T Novak via Personal_Submersibles
>> <personal_submersibles at psubs.org
>> <mailto:personal_submersibles at psubs.org>> wrote:
>>
>> Good find, Alan.
>>
>> Why does Silvercrest state that Taurus is "immediately
>> available for worldwide underwater operations" if this boat is
>> in the middle of an interrupted overhaul? If Hank's used sub
>> valuation guideline applies then this one is worth $120,000 in
>> dive ready condition. However, it's a very larger "personal
>> sub" so perhaps the guideline does not apply. Overhauling the
>> systems and ABS recertification would likely cost than that
>> amount again. Serious money required. Pretty cool, though.
>>
>> Tim
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:*Personal_Submersibles
>> [mailto:personal_submersibles-bounces at psubs.org] *On Behalf Of
>> *Alan James via Personal_Submersibles
>> *Sent:* Sunday, September 4, 2016 6:14 PM
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>> <personal_submersibles at psubs.org
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>> *Subject:* Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Fw: Taurus sub
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>> There are some specs on this Silvercrest site.
>>
>> http://www.silvercrestsubmarines.co.uk/taurusinfo.html
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>> Would hate to think what you may be in for, getting it up
>>
>> to scratch. 8 view ports to replace?
>>
>> Alan
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>> *From:*hank pronk via Personal_Submersibles
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>> *Sent:* Monday, September 5, 2016 12:31 PM
>> *Subject:* [PSUBS-MAILIST] Fw: Taurus sub
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>> Hello All,
>>
>> Yesterday I came across the Taurus Submarine on eBay , she is
>> 22 tons with diver lock out. It is in South Africa, that is
>> not bad if your in Europe, Carsten?
>>
>> Hank
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>> On Sunday, September 4, 2016 6:28 PM, xxx xxxxx <mp13 at live.ca
>> <mailto:mp13 at live.ca>> wrote:
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>> http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Scientific-Taurus-Submarine-/122109506536?hash=item1c6e4b33e8:g:V60AAOSwvzRXxto-&vxp=mtr
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