[PSUBS-MAILIST] Scrubber

Alan via Personal_Submersibles personal_submersibles at psubs.org
Wed Dec 13 22:37:26 EST 2017


Below is an extract on storage from a  sodasorb pdf that answers my 
question. Talking about anaesthesia machines It says it should be changed if it
is left in the machine for more than 48hrs. Dehydration seems their biggest
concern. 
Storage in Warehouse – Store Sodasorb absorbent in a clean, dry environment. Avoid contact with other

chemicals, acid, or water.

Sealed packages of Sodasorb absorbent are well protected against loss of moisture and have a shelf life of two years from the date of manufacture. An expiration date is marked on all packages. Once opened, packages are vulnerable to moisture loss, unless they are promptly and carefully resealed.

The moisture in Sodasorb, as well as other absorbents, will expand when frozen and result in some granule fragmentation and excessive dust. Packages which have been subjected to repeated freeze/thaw cycles should be examined closely for dust and discarded if questionable.

Indicator Sodasorb should not be stored under intense light, especially ultra-violet light, since this may degrade the ethyl violate indicator dye in Sodasorb absorbent.

Storage within the Anesthesia Machine – Carbon monoxide (CO) has been found to build up in unused anesthesia units.

If Sodasorb absorbent is left in the machine, the absorber unit should be sealed and airtight. Change Sodasorb absorbent which has been in an idle absorber unit for more than 48 hours.

Flush the anesthesia system with oxygen prior to use.

Avoid storage under intense lights. Indicator Sodasorb absorbent containing ethyl violet indicator is light sensitive and may be subject to photodeactivation. It has been demonstrated that prolonged exposure of the granules to high intensity lights will hasten the failure of the ethyl violet indicator in Sodasorb absorbent.

We recommend discarding any absorbent tinged with color. To avoid any under capacity for absorption, use only fresh Sodasorb absorbent for each charge. 


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> On 14/12/2017, at 4:16 PM, Alan via Personal_Submersibles <personal_submersibles at psubs.org> wrote:
> 
> How quickly does it deplete if it is just left as is
> with the hatch closed?
> Alan
> 
> Sent from my iPad
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>> On 14/12/2017, at 3:48 PM, Pete Niedermayr via Personal_Submersibles <personal_submersibles at psubs.org> wrote:
>> 
>> It could be done easily just a twist on some studs counter to the fan rotation. Have an extra fan or 2 for backup quick connect electrical. Turn the absorbent canister into a cartridge and wrap for easy storage and deployment.    
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>> On Wed, 12/13/17, hank pronk via Personal_Submersibles <personal_submersibles at psubs.org> wrote:
>> 
>> Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Scrubber
>> To: "Brian Cox via Personal_Submersibles" <personal_submersibles at psubs.org>
>> Date: Wednesday, December 13, 2017, 7:51 PM
>> 
>> 
>>            Hi Pete,I can do, I will try to
>> remember tomorrow.  I like that idea to just replace the
>> canister onto a fan assembly.  In fact I love that idea, it
>> would have to be designed to replace quickly.
>> Hank
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>>                        On Wednesday, December 13, 2017,
>> 6:16:16 PM MST, Brian Cox via Personal_Submersibles
>> <personal_submersibles at psubs.org> wrote:
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>>                    You would want
>> enough on hand to give you 72 hours per person.
>> 
>> Brian
>> 
>> 
>> --- personal_submersibles at psubs.org
>> wrote:
>> 
>> From: Pete Niedermayr via
>> Personal_Submersibles <personal_submersibles at psubs.org>
>> To: Personal Submersibles
>> General Discussion <personal_submersibles at psubs.org>
>> Subject: Re:
>> [PSUBS-MAILIST] Scrubber
>> Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2017 00:43:47 +0000 (UTC)
>> 
>> Hank, Pleases post some
>> pictures. My thought is multiple small scrubbers sealed in
>> cling wrap is the to go. When one is spent unwrap another
>> attach the fan and rock n roll. One could make a router
>> template to make the flat parts for a design like Alec's
>> and easily churn a couple of scrubbers. 
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>> On Sun, 12/10/17, hank
>> pronk via Personal_Submersibles <personal_submersibles at psubs.org>
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Subject: Re:
>> [PSUBS-MAILIST] Scrubber
>> To: "Brian Cox via
>> Personal_Submersibles" <personal_submersibles at psubs.org>
>> Date: Sunday, December
>> 10, 2017, 6:31 PM
>> 
>> 
>>             Brian,I
>> made a scrubber last
>> 
>> year that works a treat from 4 inch PVC pipe with a 2
>> inch
>> hollow core made
>> with you guessed it 2 inch PVC end caps.
>>  I bought some screen to
>> cover the aluminum mesh and had to
>> do a tiny bit of
>> machining.  I used a PVC threaded cap with
>> foam under the cap to
>> compress the absorbent.  Not pretty,
>> but works fantastic for
>> under 20 dollars.  Seems anything
>> can be a scrubber!Hank
>> 
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>>                       On Sunday, December 10,
>> 2017,
>> 3:57:36 PM MST,
>> Brian Cox via Personal_Submersibles
>> <personal_submersibles at psubs.org>
>> wrote:
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>>       Yes, that's the
>> plan. Brian
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>> --- personal_submersibles at psubs.org
>> wrote:
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>> From: Alan via
>> Personal_Submersibles
>> <personal_submersibles at psubs.org>
>> To:
>> Personal Submersibles
>> General Discussion
>> 
>> <personal_submersibles at psubs.org>
>> Subject: Re:
>> [PSUBS-MAILIST] Scrubber
>> Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2017 11:54:08 +1300
>> 
>> So you are making a
>> radial scrubber?Alan
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad
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>> 11/12/2017, at 11:25 AM,
>> Brian Cox via Personal_Submersibles
>> <personal_submersibles at psubs.org>
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Correction:   this is
>> the
>> one I have on
>> order: http://www.woodlanddirect.com/Outdoor/Patio-Heaters-Parts-Accessories/Tall-Patio-Heater-Main-Burner-Screen Brian
>> 
>> --- personal_submersibles at psubs.org
>> wrote:
>> 
>> From: Brian Cox via
>> Personal_Submersibles
>> <personal_submersibles at psubs.org>
>> To: "Personal
>> Submersibles General
>> 
>> Discussion" <personal_submersibles at psubs.org>
>> Subject: Re:
>> [PSUBS-MAILIST] Scrubber
>> Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2017 14:08:35 -0800
>> 
>> Yes but you want
>> maximum
>> surface area
>> to be coming in from the perimeter of the
>> canister , the outside
>> should be all screen I should
>> think.  I also have this coming by post soon
>> : https://www.amazon.com/Main-Burner-Emitter-Screen-10-25/dp/B00V3J1JPC/ref=sr_1_22?ie=UTF8&qid=1494280355&sr=8-22&keywords=patio+heater+replacement+parts  Brian
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>> --- personal_submersibles at psubs.org
>> wrote:
>> 
>> From: Alan via
>> Personal_Submersibles
>> <personal_submersibles at psubs.org>
>> To: Personal Submersibles
>> General Discussion
>> 
>> <personal_submersibles at psubs.org>
>> Subject: Re:
>> [PSUBS-MAILIST] Scrubber
>> Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2017 11:00:40 +1300
>> 
>> Brian,I
>> have looked at all sorts
>> of filters to see if there is
>> anything mass produced & cheap that might
>> be
>> easily adapted.
>> Haven't found anythingyet
>> that is worthwhile adapting. There may be
>> something ( &
>> I
>> continue tokeep my eyes open) but there are all
>> sorts of peculiarities
>> specific to a submarines requirements
>> like fan, spring, height
>> to diameter ratio & a
>> transparent container& it seems easier, as
>> Emile says, to start with
>> an acrylic
>> 
>> tube.Alan
>> 
>> Sent from my
>> iPad
>> On 11/12/2017, at 8:29
>> AM,
>> Brian Cox via
>> Personal_Submersibles <personal_submersibles at psubs.org>
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hey
>> 
>> All,                    How
>> about these to make a
>> scrubber out
>> of: http://www.utahbiodieselsupply.com/brewingfilters.php#cornydryhopper  Brian
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