[PSUBS-MAILIST] K-350 plans

Philippe Robert via Personal_Submersibles personal_submersibles at psubs.org
Sat Feb 4 14:50:50 EST 2017


Nice,

Let me know the modifications you want to make ! I want to start building
my sub soon. You can mail me at phelop at gmail.com.

tanks

Philippe

2017-02-04 14:27 GMT-05:00 via Personal_Submersibles <
personal_submersibles at psubs.org>:

> Hey guys,
>
> I just want to let you guys know I received the K-350 plans yesterday!
>
> I need to now just take some time and look through them and start writing
> down the modifications I want to do.
>
> -Ludwig
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rick Patton via Personal_Submersibles <personal_submersibles at psubs.
> org>
> To: Personal Submersibles General Discussion <personal_submersibles at psubs.
> org>
> Sent: Wed, Feb 1, 2017 11:23 pm
> Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] K-350 plans
>
> Sounds good Alan
>
> Rick
>
> On Wed, Feb 1, 2017 at 6:47 PM, Alan via Personal_Submersibles <
> personal_submersibles at psubs.org> wrote:
>
>> Hi Rick,
>> I am just finalising the design. I took a semi- finished  light to a
>> lighting expert friend today, who is going to analyse the LED for the
>> optimum
>> amperage. He says that finding the LEDs sweet spot will enable it to run
>> cool
>> enough for me to go with an acrylic lens rather than glass as I had
>> intended.
>> Will keep you in the loop with regard to progress, but shouldn't be too
>> far off.
>> Alan
>>
>>
>> Sent from my iPad
>>
>> On 2/02/2017, at 3:26 PM, Rick Patton via Personal_Submersibles <
>> personal_submersibles at psubs.org> wrote:
>>
>> Hey Alan,
>>
>> Thanks for the input! Do you have any construction pictures of the lights
>> and housings or just a finished picture?
>>
>> Rick
>>
>> On Wed, Feb 1, 2017 at 12:16 PM, Alan James via Personal_Submersibles <
>> personal_submersibles at psubs.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Rick,
>>> the lights I am making are 80mm diameter x 70mm long.
>>> There is a 100mm flange for mounting that also holds the lens in.
>>> So it will fit in to a 80mm diameter hole & bolt or screw to surrounding
>>> material.
>>> The LEDs are 80W at 105 lm/W, so 8,400 lm. However I may not drive them
>>> that
>>> hard, depending on how hot they get in water.
>>> I am building a 1 person sub similar to Cliff's R300 & will be having
>>> two arranged like car head lights + 1 either side, 1 looking backward
>>> & 1 slightly longer as a spot light.
>>> I may use the same design as navigation lights, with colored lenses &
>>> just back
>>> off the power to them.
>>> Cheers Alan
>>>
>>>
>>> ------------------------------
>>> *From:* Rick Patton via Personal_Submersibles <
>>> personal_submersibles at psubs.org>
>>> *To:* Personal Submersibles General Discussion <
>>> personal_submersibles at psubs.org>
>>> *Sent:* Thursday, February 2, 2017 10:32 AM
>>> *Subject:* Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] K-350 plans
>>>
>>> Hey Cliff
>>>
>>> That's quite a makeover! I agree, when I bought my plans, it seemed I
>>> was having to call Ketteredge a lot for clarification and would of welcomed
>>> a cleaned up set.
>>>
>>> On another note, I am getting ready to fabricate all my external light
>>> housings and would like to hear from anyone who is using LED lighting in
>>> their housings as far as how many lumans they are and what diameter they
>>> are etc.
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>>
>>> Rick
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jan 31, 2017 at 5:44 PM, Cliff Redus via Personal_Submersibles <
>>> personal_submersibles at psubs.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> Spent a couple of months last year working on the design of a modified
>>> K-350.  I found he original K-350 plans to be pretty weak. Changes made
>>> were:
>>>
>>>
>>>    1. Removed aft external motor and prop and replaced with two fixed
>>>    Minn Kota 101 thruster with kort nozzle like I have on the R300
>>>    2. Replaced vertical thrusters with two fixed Minn Kota 101
>>>    thrusters with kort nozzle
>>>    3. Propulsion and depth station keeping all fly by wire with
>>>    joystick control
>>>    4. Move air tanks (two 100 SCF aluminum scuba tanks) outside hull
>>>    old location of main propulsion motor
>>>    5. PLC for control of all systems (same as R300)
>>>    6. HMI and joystick on mobile to permit operation from prone,
>>>    sitting or standing position.
>>>    7. Replaced life support with fully automated design used on R300
>>>    8. Moved electrical components into three electrical boxes on or
>>>    near aft  elliptical head
>>>    9. Added sensors for main and auxiliary battery voltage and current,
>>>    ambient water pressure and temperature, cabin pressure, temperature, and
>>>    humidly, compass heading, boat roll and pitch, boat altitude and speed.
>>>    Life support system has sensors for CO2, O2 concentrations, O2 tank
>>>    pressure, mass rate of O2 during O2 makeup. Pressure sensor for HP air bank
>>>    and regulated air pressure.
>>>    10. Increased main battery capacity to 400 Ah  which required
>>>    increasing the battery pod diameter to 16” OD and 47” seam to seam
>>>    11. Replaced the main and auxiliary battery banks with 16 OPTIMA
>>>    BATTERIES BLUE TOP DEEP CYCLE MARINE BATTERY GROUP D34M.  12 for
>>>    main buss and 4 for auxiliary buss. 8 batteries per pod
>>>    12. Widened the spacing on battery pods to 38”
>>>    13. Added two additional viewports
>>>    14. Added external LED lights
>>>    15. Added compass/pitch/roll sensors off R300
>>>    16. Changed design of battery pods detachable heads to flange style
>>>    17. Redesigned the MBT and VBT controls.
>>>    18. Utilize Hugh Fulton pancake style pneumatically operated MBT
>>>    vent valves
>>>    19. Modified MBTs by closing the bottoms
>>>    20. lengthened VBT to 18” seam to seam to increase the volume to
>>>    8.75 gals
>>>    21. Added compass/pitch/roll sensors off R300
>>>    22. Built out boat in Autodesk Inventor professional.
>>>    23. Drawing package updated, 51 assembly drawings and 160 part
>>>    drawings
>>>    24. With mods, the current boat weight is 4,707 lbs, without pilot
>>>    or passenger
>>>    25. With mods, the current boat submerged displacement  is 4,866
>>>    lbs,
>>>    26. Buoyancy of boat with VBT and MBT fully blown is 5,849 lbf
>>>    27. Boat Reserve of buoyancy is 9.2%
>>>
>>> Cliff
>>>
>>> On Sun, Jan 29, 2017 at 12:18 PM, Philippe Robert via
>>> Personal_Submersibles <personal_submersibles at psubs. org
>>> <personal_submersibles at psubs.org>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Nice for the list ! I can't wait to read all the suggested modifications
>>> ans specs !
>>>
>>> Philippe
>>>
>>>
>>> 2017-01-29 9:22 GMT-05:00 via Personal_Submersibles <personal_submersibles at psubs.o
>>> rg <personal_submersibles at psubs.org>>:
>>>
>>> Emile,
>>>
>>> I actually already started a list on what I want to improve on the K350!
>>>
>>> I was actually thinking about having a 1 meter hull dia
>>> Improve depth rating to around 300 meters
>>> Look into improving the ballast tanks
>>> Have the thrusters be controlled by a joystick
>>>
>>> -Ludwig
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: emile via Personal_Submersibles <personal_submersibles at psubs.o rg
>>> <personal_submersibles at psubs.org>>
>>> To: 'Personal Submersibles General Discussion' <personal_submersibles at psubs.o
>>> rg <personal_submersibles at psubs.org>>
>>> Sent: Sun, Jan 29, 2017 4:47 am
>>> Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] K-350 plans
>>>
>>> Ludwig,
>>>
>>> The K350 is a nice sub and the plans might be a good start .
>>> Mind some points are a bit outdated.
>>>
>>> If I build a K350:
>>> -1 meter hull dia  (was 900mm)
>>> -improved ballast tanks
>>> -dome window in the bow
>>>
>>> Emile
>>>
>>> *Van:* Personal_Submersibles [mailto:personal_submersibles-
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>>> *Verzonden:* zaterdag 28 januari 2017 23:36
>>> *Aan:* personal_submersibles at psubs.or g
>>> <personal_submersibles at psubs.org>
>>> *Onderwerp:* [PSUBS-MAILIST] K-350 plans
>>>
>>> Hey guys,
>>>
>>> Who should I contact regarding the purchasing of the K-350 plans?
>>>
>>> I bought the plans at the end of December and still haven't received
>>> them.  I also sent an email off to sales at psubs.org around two weeks ago
>>> and haven't gotten a reply.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Ludwig
>>>
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