[PSUBS-MAILIST] motor pod solution

Sat Nov 25 08:08:21 EST 2017

 Brian,No, they will not require machining.  The rings will slide on the cylinder and be a bit out of true but that does not matter.   The gasket does not care if the rings are not true.  I have done this, it is fine.  I did this on my log salvage ROV for the electrical tank, and it was pressure proof.  The key is to keep the rings bolted together until both sides are fully welded.Hank
    On Friday, November 24, 2017, 11:56:49 PM MST, Brian Cox via Personal_Submersibles <personal_submersibles at psubs.org> wrote:  

 Hank,   Don't you think they would still need to be machined? Brian

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Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] motor pod solution
Date: Sat, 25 Nov 2017 03:49:13 +0000 (UTC)

 Brian,A low cost solution would be to make two rings and bolt them together and weld them to the head and cylinder, making the head bolt on with a gasket.Hank
    On Friday, November 24, 2017, 8:10:53 PM MST, hank pronk via Personal_Submersibles <personal_submersibles at psubs.org> wrote:  

  Brian,Oh, I see, why do you think it is going to leak?  Can you do a pressure test, take one out to sea and lower on a rope.  You may be over reacting.Hank
    On Friday, November 24, 2017, 7:15:13 PM MST, Brian Cox via Personal_Submersibles <personal_submersibles at psubs.org> wrote:  

 I could probably do that on one end but the other I have the propeller shaft coming thru the end cap , where I have a stainless 2" pipe fitting , that is where the bearing and seals are located.  Here's a pic of what I have: Brian

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From: hank pronk via Personal_Submersibles <personal_submersibles at psubs.org>
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Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] motor pod solution
Date: Sat, 25 Nov 2017 01:24:11 +0000 (UTC)

 Brian,Make a steel ring 1\4 thick and use a 1\8 inch thick aluminum plate for a cap.  If you use a steel cap then make the cap and ring, then clamp together and drill the holes, bolt the two parts together. Then weld the ring to the housing with the cap bolted on.  The two parts will be perfectly mated for a gasket.   You can do the same with ss except it is a bugger to drill the ss.  No machining needed !Hank
    On Friday, November 24, 2017, 6:12:57 PM MST, Brian Cox via Personal_Submersibles <personal_submersibles at psubs.org> wrote:  

 Hank,  I still think I would have to machine it flat.  Then I would have to paint it also.  The edges seem to be problematic with painting them, even using epoxy paint. Brian

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From: hank pronk via Personal_Submersibles <personal_submersibles at psubs.org>
To: Brian Cox via Personal_Submersibles <personal_submersibles at psubs.org>
Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] motor pod solution
Date: Sat, 25 Nov 2017 00:59:38 +0000 (UTC)

 Brian,Why don't you just drill and bolt flat plates onto a ring with a gasket?.  Or you can send your material up to me and I can machine them. Hank
    On Friday, November 24, 2017, 5:36:02 PM MST, Brian Cox via Personal_Submersibles <personal_submersibles at psubs.org> wrote:  

 Alan,  What kind of material are you using aluminum ?  Steel? Brian

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Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] motor pod solution
Date: Sat, 25 Nov 2017 13:21:23 +1300

Brian,my latest thruster design is in 3 sections; a front section housing the mechanicalseal & a bearing, the back section housing a bearing & the wiring port, & a centraltubular section. The front & back sections have an o-ring groove & o-ring for sealingon assembly. The 3 sections will be press fitted together then drilled,tapped & screwed. With the press fit I am regarding the central section as disposable as Iwould probably have to cut in to it to part the sections. Cheers Alan

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On 25/11/2017, at 12:27 PM, Brian Cox via Personal_Submersibles <personal_submersibles at psubs.org> wrote:

Hi All,        Been wrestling with my motor pods !   The way I decided to mate the two end caps to my motor casing was not the ideal method.  In fact I don't even remember ever seeing an arrangement like what I have.  I'm squeezing a 1/4" o ring between two 1/4" pieces of pipe and then have side rings inside and out to keep the o ring from expanding out of that area.  Surprisingly it has worked, probably only because there is next to zero pressure.  So not wanting to invite a bad situation of oil leaking into the ocean I decided I need to have a proper sealing scheme.  So that was going to mean I do a hatch style sealing arrangement with  14" dia stainless steel rings and a o ring groove etc..  So getting quotes on everything is was beginning to really add up , especially because the 14" pipe is just too big for my lathe , which means I would have to farm that part out !   The rings themselves were gong to be $600 for each motor pod !  So What I think I'm going to do is to just weld a 1/4" flat ring on both sides ( end cap and casing) regular steel,  put them together and then just weld a bead around edge and seal it that way.  Then if I need to get in there I will just grind off the bead and open it that way.  It will also be rather easy to weld it back together where I previously ground out the weld on that lip.   Brian

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