[PSUBS-MAILIST] K-250 Angle Stiffener Web Question

Alec Smyth via Personal_Submersibles personal_submersibles at psubs.org
Thu Sep 7 12:23:23 EDT 2017


Steve,

If you go to a hardware store you might find some little aluminum security
devices for locking sliding doors. I'm sure TrueValue has better (wink wink
for Scott) but at Home Depot I found some that fit the K250 stiffener
flanges perfectly. They clamp on with a set screw, and give you a tab you
can drill for attaching things.

Best,

Alec

On Thu, Sep 7, 2017 at 10:24 AM, Steve McQueen via Personal_Submersibles <
personal_submersibles at psubs.org> wrote:

> Sean, thanks. I was hoping you would respond : )  I did have a clamping
> approach in mind that I will revisit.
> Thanks,
> Steve
>
> ---- "Sean T. Stevenson via Personal_Submersibles" <
> personal_submersibles at psubs.org> wrote:
> > The minimum moment of inertia of the combined section of the stiffener
> plus an effective length of the pressure boundary shell may be specified by
> design, but in any case is to be calculated in consideration of the minimum
> at the locations where any holes exist. Holes in the flange are far more
> detrimental than holes in the web, with the mininum impact hole being a
> hole which is coincident with the neutral axis across the combined section.
> (i.e. holes drilled in the center of the web of an I-beam have the least
> impact).
> >
> > Better than drilling holes would be to simply clamp to stiffener rings,
> or weld on brackets or studs such that no material is removed from the
> stiffener section. Otherwise you do have to account for the reduced moment
> of inertia of the stiffener section at the hole location in your buckling,
> inter-stiffener strength and stuffener tripping calculations.
> >
> > Sean
> >
> >
> > On September 7, 2017 6:51:03 AM PDT, Steve McQueen via
> Personal_Submersibles <personal_submersibles at psubs.org> wrote:
> > >All, as most probably know a K-250 has internal angle stiffeners (L).
> > >
> > >In my rebuild I have avoided drilling any holes in the web portion of
> > >these stiffeners (actually had some existing holes from the original
> > >build welded up/filled).  However, I am finding it would be nice if I
> > >could drill a few small (1/4") holes to help mount some interior parts.
> > >I believe I am looking at 1 to 3 of these holes max. in any single
> > >stiffener web.
> > >
> > >Calculating any reduction in functional strength that might result from
> > >a few small holes isn't straight forward.  I guess I am looking for
> > >some feedback from those who understand the web function of an L
> > >stiffener better than I.
> > >
> > >My guess is this wouldn't be a significant issue and I an being too
> > >anal.
> > >
> > >Thanks,
> > >Steve
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