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Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] viewport surface finish



Yes, if your doing a lot or emery. 
 
Keeping the ways clean and oiled is important but emery cloth is used on laths all the time to deburr sharp edges.  For the few grains of grit that land on the ways it's not that big of a deal.  It's far less grit then you get when using a tool post grinder on a lathe. 
 
But, as Lain points out, it is wise to protect the ways from grit when your doing this much emery on a lathe.  And I agree, news paper or cardboard is always best.  Wipe and reoil afterward also.
 
Dan H.
 
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Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2006 4:46 PM
Subject: RE: [PSUBS-MAILIST] viewport surface finish

PLEASE PLEASE be careful if you are going to use emry paper on the lathe, Cover all parts of the lathe that could possibly get grit on it with newspaper (not rag). The grit breaks off the paper and can settle on all you slides and bed and when mixed with oil on the bed and or coolant you have grinding paste. NASTY!

 

Newspaper is best as rag has a high tensile strength and when caught around your arm and the chuck = BAD

 

Newspaper will tear.

 

Just some thoughts, you hopefully know all this.

 


From: owner-personal_submersibles@psubs.org [mailto:owner-personal_submersibles@psubs.org] On Behalf Of Dan H.
Sent: Monday, 6 March 2006 7:34 PM
To: personal_submersibles@psubs.org
Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] viewport surface finish

 

Brian, 

 

A-516 shouldn't be any more difficult to machine then standard off the shelf A-36 or 1018 steel you find.  There are some steels that are freer machining but not by much.  There are a lot of steels that are much tougher and sticker to machine.  If your machining any 316 stainless for sub parts, you'll find that much more difficult. 

 

I imagine you could etch with acid but I've never heard of anyone doing that.  It would probably just give you a coating of corrosion under the paint.  All you need to do is, after your done machining, sand the surfaces your going to paint a bit right in the lathe with some, maybe 180 grit emery paper, or sand blast it after your done machining if you have a sand blaster.  Use a two part, self etching primer after that.  The primer will bite into the surface and hold the paint.  Also, the primer will protect the surface until your sub is all welded together and painted. 

 

You may want to run some tests of how thick your paint will be when your finished.  I'm guessing one layer of primer and one layer of paint will average about .010 of an inch but it depends on how you put it on and how heavy you apply it.   

 

Dan H.

----- Original Message -----

From: Brian Cox

Sent: Monday, March 06, 2006 9:36 PM

Subject: [PSUBS-MAILIST] viewport surface finish

 

Hello All, 

                       I've got another couple of viewport questions for some of you savy sub builders out there.  I've been machining my first flat disk viewport flange .  That A516 grade 70 steel is really hard stuff !!  I was surprised how much more difficult it is to machine,  in that you can't take off as much metal at a time.  Anyway I have been doing some of the final cuts and facing and getting a very smooth surface finish with higher speeds on the lathe and I have my tolerences very close.  But what I'm wondering is if those surfaces are going to be painted with epoxy will the very smooth suface finish make it hard for the epoxy to stick?  Should I treat it with muriatic acid before I paint it?  And how many thousandths does the average epoxy paint add up to?

 

Thanks

 

Brian Cox,  Ventura