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sorry, I spoke mostly from local knowledge and
didn't qualify that I did so.
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Sent: Monday, July 17, 2006 9:26 PM
Subject: RE: [PSUBS-MAILIST] They're Just
"Guidelines" !
George,
This is not
completely accurate. The Coast Guard has no jurisdiction over
non-navigatable waters such as a quarry. Also, previously some States do
not require registration for vessels under a certain length (not sure if this
is still applicable).
Jay K.
Jeffries
Andros Is.,
Bahamas
Natura
nihil fit in frustra
? Nature
does nothing in vain
From:
owner-personal_submersibles@psubs.org
[mailto:owner-personal_submersibles@psubs.org] On Behalf Of George
Slaterpryce
Sent: Monday,
July 17, 2006 9:23 AM
To:
personal_submersibles@psubs.org
Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] They're Just
"Guidelines" !
If it
has motors, can carry passengers, and goes in the water... then the coast
gaurd has jurisdiction over it and you need to register it (get a hull number
and pay your taxes on it).
If you
want to use it for commercial purposes, you need a certifying agency to check
it out, and certifying agencies like to be involved from the planning process
on.
George
H. Slaterpryce III
That's MR. PIG. to
you!
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Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, July 16,
2006 11:57 AM
Subject: RE:
[PSUBS-MAILIST] They're Just "Guidelines"
!
I
suppose that would be one way of doing it. But you might try calling
first to see if they believe they have jurisdiction or requirements for
submersible operation. Perhaps more information would be helpful
regarding your definition of "human occupancy". You don't need
certification from anyone if you're just using the sub for yourself or
taking passengers for free. If you want paying passengers, then I
think you'll need Coast Guard certification for the vessel and a "captain"
certification from them. It's been a long time since I had my boat,
but I believe those were the conditions for a vessel that was "for
hire". Of course, that only applies to waterways in which the Coast
Guard has jurisdiction. You don't need ABS certification unless you
are looking for insurance on the vessel. In that case, I assume the
insurance company would dictate who they required to perform the inspection
for certification.
I
don't have a definitive answer for you Brian. Just recalling some of
the issues I've heard about in the past.
-----Original
Message-----
From:
owner-personal_submersibles@psubs.org
[mailto:owner-personal_submersibles@psubs.org]On Behalf Of Brian Cox
Sent: Sunday, July 16, 2006 1:02
AM
To: personal_submersibles@psubs.org
Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] They're
Just "Guidelines" !
So you just motor up to the coast guard dock with your 50' X 8' dia
concrete sub and say " I need my sticker" ?
I'm sure they would have no idea what they were looking at.
But I guess if you had all of your floatation devices, flares, anchor,
radio, they would pass you. What do you think?
----- Original
Message -----
Sent: Saturday,
July 15, 2006 15:03
Subject: RE:
[PSUBS-MAILIST] They're Just "Guidelines"
!
Wouldn't the
coast guard be the guiding authority?
-----Original
Message-----
From: owner-personal_submersibles@psubs.org
[mailto:owner-personal_submersibles@psubs.org]On Behalf Of Brian
Cox
Sent: Saturday,
July 15, 2006 4:22 PM
To: Personal_Submersibles@psubs.org
Subject: [PSUBS-MAILIST] They're
Just "Guidelines" !
I have a
hypothetical question concerning pressure vessels for human
occupancy. What if the material that is being used is not
addressed in the "guidelines" in the PVHO handbook? The material
I'm thinking of is concrete, would certification by an engineer as to
the strength of the material suffice ?
Also say a
pressure vessel for human occupancy was built and say that this
pressure vessel was only going to be lowered in and out of the water
with a crane. If the pressure vessel was certified by a
qualified engineer would that be different than Lloyds of London or the
ABS certifying a submarine? Doug Farrow, any thoughts on
this?
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