From: vbra676539@aol.com
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To: personal_submersibles@psubs.org
Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Launch Retrieval Transport
Date: Sun, 05 Nov 2006 14:18:28 -0500
Joe, Look at www.pithpontoons.com Lots of info on weight carrying ability, etc., and you could but some stuff pre-made, if it isn't too expensive. Vance
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From: joeperkel@hotmail.com
To: personal_submersibles@psubs.org
Sent: Sun, 5 Nov 2006 1:22 PM
Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Launch Retrieval Transport
************************************************************************ ************************************************************************ ************************************************************************ The personal submersibles mailing list complies with the US Federal CAN-SPAM Act of 2003. Your email address appears in our database because either you, or someone you know, requested you receive messages from our organization. If you want to be removed from this mailing list simply click on the link below or send a blank email message to: removeme-personal_submersibles@psubs.org Removal of your email address from this mailing list occurs by an automated process and should be complete within five minutes of our server receiving your request. PSUBS.ORG PO Box 311 Weare, NH 03281 603-529-1100 ************************************************************************ ************************************************************************ **************************! **********************************************Hi Dean,We need to be careful with this idea of pontoons with regard to stability. There is more than enough lift provided, but I just discovered as noted to Vance, that the "hydrohoist" seems to have a fixed pivot point which would counter this. I don't know for sure, I never really looked at one closely, but this issue of stability needs to be looked at very closely.No matter how we slice it, you are raising the cg significantly. Obviously, if we could spread them wide enough....who cares, but @ 8.5'.....I just don't know yet.Jay has an idea for a planning sled that may very well be a better solution than this, in that it would allow for seaworthy towing as well as shallow water launching.Clearly, problems to be worked out.Joe
From: Recon1st@aol.com
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To: personal_submersibles@psubs.org
Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Launch Retrieval Transport
Date: Sun, 5 Nov 2006 11:52:20 EST
In a message dated 11/4/2006 9:39:08 AM Central Standard Time, joeperkel@hotmail.com writes:Here are the problems that I can foresee here, and would like discussion on improvements or otherwise unforeseen circumstances.Joe I am Dean Ackman from Duluth Mn. You are touching on the subjectof my plans for trailoring.I am planning a 2 man 1atm fw 300-400 ability.My current thoughts so far is using pontoon boat pontoons for thetrailer.Being from Minnesota I am very familiar with pontoon boats and have ahuge resource of cheep parts.You are correct in width being a problem to keep em legal down the road.My solution so far (unbuilt or tested) is at least a double deck pontoonset stacked on each other. The top set will have cradle for sub. Thetop section itself will be on slides to pull it back further in the water.Most Lake launches I will be going in, get fairly deep once you getpast the normal boat launching area. Once I achieve bouancy on the suba simple mechanical release will turn her loose. I have even thought ofa cat walk thingy so I don't need to get me all wet to enter the sub.Most of my diving will be in Lake superior, and their are many goodlaunch points I can use. However I do have several 200 ft lakesin the area I may want to explore so I am also considering Havingthe trailer to have the ability to disconnect the wheels and becomea tender boat for these lakes.Any way like I said the only place this exists is in my head, buthave not been able to think of a reason why it won't work.Dean