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Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Launch Retrieval Transport
I have the winch-cable on a plate with a hole for the towing hook of the car - and a tounge (a long fix one) - and sometimes additional wooden planks..
.. and use sometimes the winch and sometimes the tounge and sometimes nothing of it - depents on the ramp, beach or what ever..
Nemo did it the same way.
regrads Carsten
"Ray Keefer" <psubs2001@yahoo.com> schrieb:
> Hi,
>
> You could have both a telescoping tounge and a length
> of cable. That way you could use which ever system
> best suited the launch location. Best of both worlds.
>
> Regards,
> Ray
>
> --- vbra676539@aol.com wrote:
>
> > I'll go with it, too, within the context of Florida
> > ramps and their limitations. Vance
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: sealordone@aol.com
> > To: personal_submersibles@psubs.org
> > Sent: Mon, 6 Nov 2006 10:36 PM
> > Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Launch Retrieval
> > Transport
> >
> >
> > Shipmates,
> >
> > I have to go with Ray on this one. When it comes to
> > best practices and lessons learned, I believe that
> > Alec's solution is far superior to any of the other
> > solutions discussed to date.
> >
> > Doug Farrow
> > SeaLordOne
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: psubs2001@yahoo.com
> > To: personal_submersibles@psubs.org
> > Sent: Mon, 6 Nov 2006 3:50 PM
> > Subject: RE: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Launch Retrieval
> > Transport
> >
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > The best launch and retrieval method that I saw at
> > the
> > 2006 PSUBS Convention was Alec Smyth's telescoping
> > tounge on his trailer.
> >
> > Yes a cable can be used to back a trailer into the
> > water. That is until the trailer hits a bump or
> > rock.
> > With a trailer tounge the tow vehicle can push the
> > trailer further out when gravity fails you.
> >
> > For retrieval, once the trailer is out in the water,
> > either method works well.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Ray
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --- Nomdae Plume <nomdae@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> > ---------------------------------
> >
> > Hey Joe:
> >
> > Pat Regan had an interresting solution to the
> > problem:
> > He attached a 50 foot cable to his trailer and was
> > able to keep his van high on the launch ramp while
> > moving his sub into deeper water. You can see this
> > in
> > action at:
> >
> >
> http://www.vulcaniasubmarine.com/TESTING%20THE%20NAUTILUS%20MINISUB.htm
> >
> > The draft on my sub is going to be less than three
> > feet when surfaced, so I'm not too concerned at this
> > point.
> >
> > -- NP
> >
> >
> >
> > ---------------------------------
> > From: "Joseph Perkel" <joeperkel@hotmail.com>
> > Reply-To: personal_submersibles@psubs.org
> > To: personal_submersibles@psubs.org
> > Subject: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Launch Retrieval Transport
> > Date: Sat, 04 Nov 2006 15:31:31 +0000
> >
> > I would like to open a discussion for the group to
> > brainstorm a common problem.
> >
> > In discussions with several members recently, the
> > issue of trailer launching a 2 ton deep draft
> > submersible is weighing a bit on my mind. The image
> > of
> > backing the thing in far enough to "get stuck" and
> > still not float free, or worse...launching the
> > vehicle
> > as well, has real potential.
> >
> > One member has mentioned to me recently, that as
> > little as 12" decreased draft, would really make a
> > tremendous difference. Saddle tanks alone, may not
> > be
> > enough to do the job.
> >
> > So...some folks in Hawaii, came up with the LRT
> > barge........
> >
> > http://www.photolib.noaa.gov/nurp/nur07523.htm
> >
> > A rather ingenious. but impractical solution for
> > psubbers as it requires diver support, and fully
> > submersible would require increased complexity.
> >
> > However, it did prompt me to think of these little
> > guys...........
> >
> >
> http://www.springsdock.com/images/springs/SpringsNewPontoonBoat_M.jpg
> >
> >
> > These are available on the used market in various
> > states, but our interest would be the floats, and
> > possibly the deck. But, putting a two ton
> > submersible
> > on this deck would make it unstable, so my thoughts
> > are to...reverse the deck (under slung)... cut flood
> > ports in the bottoms, and attach flotation
> > topside...essentially turning these pontoons into
> > MBT's. Blowing to be accomplished by battery powered
> > centrifugal blowers.
> >
> > This could be potentially used only for launching
> > and
> > retrieval in the calm waters of the ramp area, then
> > reload it onto the trailer and tow the sub
> > conventionally.
> >
> > Here are the problems that I can foresee here, and
> > would like discussion on improvements or otherwise
> > unforeseen circumstances.
> >
> > 1) Width limited to 102" for legal towing without
> > permits.
> >
> > 2) Width limit may limit usable space between
> > pontoons
> > in the described configuration.
> >
> > 3) Road towing stability
> >
> > Sometimes the simplest solutions elude you, so I'd
> > like to see what the group can come up with here.
> >
> > Joe
> >
> >
> >
> >
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