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Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Compressable ballast tanks



Hi Dave.
 
I think I understand what you are saying and how it would work. Please tell me if my understanding described below is accurate to what you are saying.
 
I am thinking of stainless steel tubing sized to perhaps an aluminum automotive piston head with its old steel "O" ring grooves now filled with large rubber "O" rings. Am I correct that your method would seal both ends with screw on caps and let the piston
 
freefloat with the threaded oil line located behind the piston so the piston would compress the air in front of it in the tube, and the pressurized oil would fill the tube behind the piston and this would be less buoyant and then you release the oil pressure
 
and the compressed air would then push the oil back into the reservoir? Is this accurate to what you meant? If it is, I can't use it. Remember, I have a wetsub. No pressure vessel. One of the ends of my ballast tube as I call it, has to be
 
open to the water so the water can fill in behind the piston and also be pushed out again in my idea. No oil filling up my tube volume with attendant oil reservoir. Just a one end open tube, a piston within it,  somehow forcing the piston forward,
 
compressing the air and letting water in behind the piston, decreasing air volume to descend, then letting the now compressed air in the tube force the piston back again, forcing the water out and increasing air volume to accend. This is what I need
 
but your idea should work in a pressure vessel but not for me. What I need to figure out is how to force that piston forward to compress the tube's air while allowing water in behind the piston into the tube. I would like to do this with an electric motor that
 
operated a plunger of some type that would push the piston inwards but would leave the backside of the piston open to the water. See what I mean? Any ideas?
 
Bill Akins.
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From: Dave Banks
Sent: Monday, January 02, 2006 1:01 PM
Subject: RE: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Compressable ballast tanks

Hi Bill....
Forget the scuba tank but use the idea....it works great for a hard ballast system....take a tube out side the pressure vessel and put a free floating piston inside the tube....pump oil into the tube and it will move the piston.  this creates a volume change in regards to the pressure vessel and is infinitely adjustable..the ambient water pressure will push the piston back to negative buoyancy by displacing the oil back into the reservoir inside the pressure vessel when a valve is opened..the pump from any Hyd. jack off a Kmart shelf will do the trick...Maybe I don't understand what your trying to acomplish with the scuba tank thing.......Dave...

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