Hey, Dude - you can claim this idea all to
yourself!!
I'm using a regulator bank for the cockpit.
That was my idea. But, it never occurred to me to use it as a
diesel backup breather.
Ah, what the heck, great minds think alike.
And fools seldom differ? (forgive the loose
paraphrase)
Rick L
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Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2006 4:13
AM
Subject: RE: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Design
Protection (patent) Question
Steve
I forgot two more ideas that I am (borrowing), neither of which was
mine.
Rick M Cog belt to drive shaft for
possible 12v motor
Rick L Negative pressure
regulators, to feed intermittent air to the diesel from the hp tanks should
the snorkel close inadvertently.
I would not be able to do this but for the help I have recieved form this
forum.
Joe
From: "Joseph Perkel" <joeperkel@hotmail.com> Reply-To:
personal_submersibles@psubs.org To:
personal_submersibles@psubs.org Subject: RE: [PSUBS-MAILIST]
Design Protection (patent) Question Date: Mon, 09 Jan 2006
21:42:33 +0000
Steve wrote:
"What I am starting to accept is that most of what I am going to
incorporate are concepts that have already been proven and designed by
others. I guess I am feeling like I am cheating a little!"
....Well...I for one am shamelessly stealing ...err....(borrowing), so
far anyway....
Kittredge K350
Soft ballast tank arrangement, Thanks Dan H...as allways.
E-Boat
Bow bouancy tank from fleet boat as my fore and aft trim tanks
Peter Madsens Kraka Snorkel
Float, (which he borrowed, from Germany who borrowed from Dutch in turn)....
fixed stern planes, and camera scope.
Sport Sub Flat plate windows,
round ports, Freeman Hatch
Caribsub Material scantlings,
diesel arrangement, poppet valve
That is so far! Steve, in my research, I have discovered that the history
of submarine design is full of precisely this "borrowing" of the other
guys stuff. We are in good company sir!....just keep your wallet close when
I'm around! :)
Joe
From: ""
<psub101@iquest.net> Reply-To: personal_submersibles@psubs.org To: ""
<personal_submersibles@psubs.org> Subject: RE:
[PSUBS-MAILIST] Design Protection (patent)
Question Date: Mon, 9 Jan 2006 13:25:42
-0500 >Joe,Greg, >Thanks for your replies. I
wasn't referring to a specific situation. I enjoy >the design
challenges (like most of us) but have found great examples
that >others have already worked out that are in line with my design
desires. I >guess it is just a personal choice of how much you want
to "own" in the way of >design work vs. how effectively (quickly)
you want to get through the design >process. What I am
starting to accept is that most of what I am going to >incorporate
are concepts that have already been proven and designed by
others. >I guess I am feeling like I am cheating a
little! > >Thanks, >Steve > > Joseph
Perkel <joeperkel@hotmail.com>: > > > Steve, >
> > > > > I suspect that most patents regarding basic
sub designs, such as Holland's > > U-Shape ballast tanks, are
long since expired. Jay would be in a position to > > know for
sure. > > If you're referring to Giuseppe's's take-off of the
Sport Sub, I suspect that > > would be ok as well as long as you
don't use any of the trade names...ie, > > Sportsub and such. If
that specific shape is patented, you couldn't market it > > but
you could copy it for your own use. > > Joe > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
From: "Gregory B. Snyder" <snyder@mnrad.com> > >
Reply-To: personal_submersibles@psubs.org > >
To: <personal_submersibles@psubs.org> > >
Subject: RE: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Design Protection (patent)
Question > > Date: Mon, 9 Jan 2006 10:21:52
-0600 > > >Doesn't this only become a problem if you plan on
reselling or > > >manufacturing the item? > >
>Greg > > > > > >-----Original
Message----- > > >From:
owner-personal_submersibles@psubs.org > >
>[mailto:owner-personal_submersibles@psubs.org] On Behalf Of >
> >psub101@iquest.net > > >Sent: Monday, January 09,
2006 10:00 AM > > >To: personal_submersibles@psubs.org >
> >Subject: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Design Protection (patent)
Question > > > > > > > > >All, >
> >Recently we have discussed benefits of using existing >
> design > > >concepts/philosophies that have been proven
vs. designing too far out of > > > > > >the
"box". I agree with this approach. Actually I can
find a few > > >commercial > > >submersibles that
are very much like my conceptual design(s) with > >
>usefully > > >specifications given as well as the
sizing/mechanics figured out etc. > > >My > >
>question is, at what point is "borrowing" exact aspects of
another's > > >design an > >
>issue? Obviously you would not assume any design would not
need to be > > >verified > > >etc. Anyone else
struggle with borrowing something that they have seen > >
>commercially? > > > > > >Steve > >
McQueen, > > >Indianapolis,IN > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
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