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Hi Steve.
You may think personal sub owners are the last
thing on the mind of intelligence agencies and governments, but the below
article would seem to prove otherwise.
Here's an article where the intelligence
service and government of another country most definately has personal sub
owners on their mind and are closely watching them.
In this instance there is no proof that this sub
was being built or intended to be used in illegal activities. Yet they are
harrassed and watched by the government. This was
exactly my point and why I mentioned it could be
just a matter of time before personal submarine construction is not allowed. It
would only take one terroist attack using one and a knee jerk
reaction by congress enacting legislation. Remember
the patriot act? Another knee jerk reaction that illegally violates our
constitutional rights. But congress imposed it regardless.
I'm not saying it WILL happen, just that I see the
distinct possibility that it may happen in the near future. Drug smugglers
and terrorists using homebuilt
personal subs could ruin it for all of us. The
government is only about making money and taking from us. If the government
can't control it or tax it, they outlaw it.
Then they can impose fines and seizures on those
they catch and make money that way since they couldn't control it or tax it they
found another way to make their money.
That's what they do with the war on
drugs.
Bill Akins.
Thai authorities have stumbled on a half-built submersible thought to have
been ordered for use by the Tamil Tigers at a shipyard in Phuket province.
Well-informed government sources said yesterday the vessel, which is about 10m
long, could accommodate 2-3 people. Found at a shipyard on Koh Si-lae, the
submersible was of the same type the vessel Sri lankan government forces seized
in Mullaitive City, southeast of Jaffna, the sources said. The shipyard was
partly owned by a Tamil separatist sympathiser. It was possible the guerrillas
had ordered the vessel for surprise raids or laying mines. The half-built
vessel was not impounded. Its being built here was not a violation of Thai law,
the sources said. However, the shipyard was now under close watch to prevent
the submersible being moved.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, April 02, 2006 10:11
PM
Subject: RE: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Mafia drug
sub
Bill
Wrote - Makes me wonder how soon
before legislation is enacted restricting and licensing homebuilt
submarines and the government closely
watching us.
I
think personal sub owners are the last thing on the Mind Intelligence
Services.
After
all, airliners were used to blow up buildings yet you can still buy a personal
jet aircraft with out restriction.
I
think if a group of Sub nuts create a forum like Psubs and Frappr, then
identify themselves and have no Islamic or other agenda I hardly think ASIO,
the CIA or MI6 would even have us on their radar. Their primary criterion is
to look for ?motivation and intent?.
Mind
you if your name was ABDOUL from
Lebanon,
you owned a Cold War Russian Sub, your brother was a suicide bomber, you claim
to be a fundamentalist and have just purchased 1000kgs of Nitrogen based
fertiliser, it might be a different
matter.
Regards
Steve
P
-----Original
Message-----
From:
owner-personal_submersibles@psubs.org
[mailto:owner-personal_submersibles@psubs.org] On Behalf Of Akins
Sent: Monday,
3 April 2006
11:17
AM
To:
personal_submersibles@psubs.org
Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Mafia drug
sub
Makes me wonder how soon
before legislation is enacted restricting and licensing homebuilt
submarines and the government closely
watching us. Hate to see that but
I think if this sort of thing continues, it is sadly inevitable. We are
already licensed as a boat, but
I think the day may come when we
are not allowed to build submarines for personal use and the government will
restrict submarines
to only their military use and
tour subs. So now is the time to take advantage of lack of restrictions while
we can.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday,
April 02, 2006 4:49 PM
Subject: Re:
[PSUBS-MAILIST] Mafia drug sub
Amazing really!...Submarines crewed by thugs and or
terrorists sneaking around territorial waters is just the kind of thing that
makes it to the morning briefings of American Presidents and EU Prime
Ministers. These guys truly are not thinking clearly, or pehaps post 911
security has cut into business a bit and they are getting a bit
antsy!
That last one looked a lot like Carstens sections of
Euronaut, a bit smaller in diameter maybe.
Joe
From: Rob Ossian
<rob_neptune@yahoo.com>
Reply-To: personal_submersibles@psubs.org
To: personal_submersibles@psubs.org
Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Mafia drug
sub
Date: Sun, 2 Apr 2006 09:56:43 -0700
(PDT)
>Another drug sub
story:
>http://www.mmjp.or.jp/amlang.atc/worldnow/00/sep/08.htm
>
>/Rob
>
>---
Akins <lakins1@tampabay.rr.com> wrote:
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> > Mafia
drug sub impounded.
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>http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/tm_objectid=16879683&method=full&siteid=66633&headline=drug-cops-foil-mafia-subterfuge--name_page.html
>
>
> >
> > Bill Akins.
> >
>
>
> >
> >
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