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RE: [PSUBS-MAILIST] SubCat S-30 Data

Frank,
            Part of the team that is producing the Phoenix Motorcars is based here in Ojai, CA and I happened to talk with one of the principal persons about this very subject about a year ago.  What he told me was the battery that is being made for the Phoenix is a custom made deal specifically for the car and that the cost of it is out of the universe.  Apparently it is going to be quite a while before those batteries will be available to the general public.  The only way you could get your hands on one of those batteries is to buy one of the cars and there is a really long waiting list for that.
 
Brian
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From: owner-personal_submersibles@psubs.org [mailto:owner-personal_submersibles@psubs.org]On Behalf Of ShellyDalg@aol.com
Sent: Monday, December 31, 2007 9:33 AM
To: personal_submersibles@psubs.org
Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] SubCat S-30 Data

Brent. It sure would be nice to get some of those Li-ion batteries they're using in the plug-in electric cars.
Some companies are making them the size of car batteries, and the flash recharge time to 80% is as low as 6 minutes, with a 100% charge taking 4 hours.
A car company here in Calif. called Phoenix Motorcars is producing small trucks for fleet use, and they have the batteries, but when can the general public get some ? I wonder if a group such as ours could get them to sell us some for testing in a sub ? I recall their site ( the battery co. ) as saying they promote testing their batteries in different applications.
The best one I've seen uses a nano type material, I think it was phosphate based, with virtually no danger of fire or explosion which was common on some of the other types of Li-ion batteries.
Frank D.