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RE: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Upward Buoyant Pressures on Ambient Interior Surfaces



 
In searching thru my saved buoyancy data, I found this great data from Ray, I had saved several years ago, that might help us.
 
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 "Bouyancy
        Question:
 
 Why you are more buoyant in salt water then in fresh water?
        Answer:
 Displacement equals the amount of liquid an object displaces or moves
 out of the way when put into that liquid. The force of that displaced
 water pushing on a hull is called Bouyancy. If an object floats then
 the amount of liquid displaced weighs the same as the object and
 overall that object is less dense then the liquid it is floating on.

 Formulas:
 
 Bouyancy = volume of liquid displaced   X    density of liquid displaced
      (lb)                (ft^3)                         (lb/ft^3)
                   (also known as displacement)
  
  
 or shifted around:
                          Bouyancy
                              (lb)
 Displacement = ----------------------------------
        (ft^3)         density of liquid displaced
                            (lb/ft^3)  
 
 Constants:
 
 lb   = pounds
 ft^3 = cubic feet
 Density of fresh water is: 62.3 lb/ft^3
 Density of salt water is:  64.0 lb/ft^3
 Example:
 A boat weights 100 lb. How much fresh water and salt water will
 it displace? Which liquid is more buoyant?

           Fresh Water    Salt Water
         
                      Bouyancy                                Bouyancy
 Displacement = -----------------        Displacement = -----------------
                      Density                                 Density
                 
                          100 lb                                  100 lb
                     = ------------------                    = -----------------      
                       62.3 lb/ft^3                            64.0 lb/ft^3
                  
                   =   1.61 ft^3                           =    1.56 ft^3
            
 Salt water is more buoyant since less is needed to displace the same
 weight."

        ( Ray Keefer 16 Jan 2001 )


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Regards,

Szybowski



From: bottomgun@mindspring.com
To: personal_submersibles@psubs.org
Subject: RE: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Upward Buoyant Pressures on Ambient Interior Surfaces
Date: Thu, 4 Sep 2008 20:35:08 -0400

Another important thing to remember from basic physics is that a pressure is sensed throughout a fluid…even across a fluid interface.  WE are talking about two different pressures here: a differential pressure that is negligible across the hull (or near non-existent…remember we are talking about ambient subs) and the buoyant force from the entrapped air.  All of these forces are in equilibrium otherwise the air bubble would be constantly expanding or contracting.  There will not be much change with breathing because as you breathe in decreasing the bubble, your lungs expand displacing the water.

 

You have to be careful with some diver’s pressure sensing watches as they depend on water contact to activate the depth feature.

 

Gotta pack, we are to be evacuated from the Base tomorrow afternoon by C-130 due to hurricane Ike bearing down on us.

R/Jay

 

Respectfully,

Jay K. Jeffries

Andros Is., Bahamas

 

Talk sense to a fool and he calls you foolish.

    - Euripides (484 BC - 406 BC)

 

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