Re: BAD JOHN SCHESTAG

[shawl@torchlake.com (Jonathan Shawl)]

Cody,
I think you must really be into conspiracies or something. From all I heard
about it back when I joined p-subs it was no big cover-up at all. Just
somebody filling everybody's mail boxes with personal insults and stupid
stories and other stuff not related to building subs at all, at a rate of
about 10 an hour. From the rumors I herd this guy may have just been a few
volts short of a full charge. I really don't know much about it, nor am I
interested in digging up whatever it was that was happened. So don't drag
me into this any farther at all. I didn't have anything to do with it, nor
did I bring it up.
With this message you now know all I know about it, so don't be asking me
if your right or getting close, I HAVE NO IDEA! That is my last word on
this subject. Now back to subs I hope.
Jonathan Shawl

Cody Monroe wrote:

> Jon Shawl and list,
> Jon, I went to the "litigation" posts you mentioned by John Schestag
> and it didn't have anything to do with a suit against psubs or Jon
> Wallace or Ray Keefer, read it under, "Litigation "Mantra" subs for
> all".
> I also saw a July 1 and 2 1998 posts from a Taylor aka HanSoloTAA that
> looked pretty wierd.  Go to the John Schestag post of July 25 that is
> "Oooops! I'm sorry"  Rick Lucertini wrote to John Schestag on September
> 7 and read what it says.  Sounds just like good fun to me.  Rick, did
> John Schestag answer your e-mail and what was going on?  Oooops!,
> Sorry??  What was that all about?  Sorry for what?  Personally, I think
> John Schestag's postings were a riot and interesting compared to forks
> in your eye!? Sounds like he had a beautiful wet sub too. Is he still
> alive from his cancer?  Maybe Jon W. and Ray should say, "I'm Sorry"
> and invite him back if he's still alive.  It takes big men, like
> Charlie, to say "I'm Sorry".
>
> Jon, Ray Keefer's post was also censored on September 8, why Ray's? (is
> he going to sue psubs too?) and Jon Wallace's post on September 8 "no
> subject" also talks about John Schestag.  So, Jon Shawl, I think your
> idea is a good one.  Since Jon Wallace and Ray Keefer won't unblock or
> uncensor the "PSUBSGATE" files, some old psubs member please re-post
> them so this coverup is uncovered for all list members once and for
> all.
>
> The only two people who censored BAD JOHN SCHESTAG are either Ray
> Keefer or Jon Wallace at Advanced Digital Research, wherever that's
> located.  Maybe someone could call ADR's lawyer and ask why this
> "PSUBSGATE" continues and see what he says.  I just think BAD JOHN
> SCHESTAG was probably a pretty nice and humorous member and then got
> ganged up on like CHARLIE did and he may have fought back and now his
> postings are an embarrassment to psubs' management and owners.
>
> How's that Jon Shawl, do I win the prize for solving the mystery?
>
> I also notice that one of the search engines has a Web Site called
> "SUBS R US" under JOHN SCHESTAG's name and the web page was prodeced by
> ADR!  Why? (just to be mean?)  Also, on Yahoo, the first two websites
> for PersonaL_Submersibles are no good and are closed down.  Only the
> third one works.  Sounds like a very dumb way to promote Psubs for new
> psubs visitors or for net surfers.
>
> Jeeez, Ray and Jon W., just go public, come out of the closet and
> "uncensor" the damn "BAD JOHN SCHESTAG" files in your archives and stop
> this stupid coverup.  Your mutual inactions of "silence" are getting
> very loud to some psubs members.  What are you both hiding from all of
> us?  Then, we can all get back to talking about subs.  Right, Jon
> Shawl? (and all the psubs members said a big, "Amen!")  Are you
> writing this all down, Bob Holt?  :)
> Cody
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