[PSUBS-MAILIST] Surface Transit and power requirements

Alan alanlindsayjames at yahoo.com
Fri Nov 29 14:46:32 EST 2013


Hank,
I have thought about buying a small inflatable that I can flip
upside down on top of my sub for transport.
That way you don't need another car & trailer for a support boat.
It would be good for extending your range a bit & enabling
you to transit to the dive site in a bit more comfort.
Also you could accommodate a support person & mount a 
dive flag on it.
Of course it would have it's limitations.
Alan

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On 30/11/2013, at 5:49 AM, hank pronk <hanker_20032000 at yahoo.ca> wrote:

> Joe,
> I have a similar plan, I hope to take a gas powered concrete saw that I already have, and mount a 24v alternator to it.
> The nice thing about this engine is, it is 2stroke and it has a belt drive clutch on it already.   It is basically a big chainsaw engine made by Huscavarna.  The idea is it will fit in a 5 gal pail with a sealed lid stowed in the sub.  I will make a mount on the deck of the sub to clamp it in.  I should be able to make 60a at 24v with it.  I am just not jumping into this until I   am sure I need it.   With 8 agm golf cart batteries I think I will have a 14mile range?
> Hank
> 
> 
> On Thursday, November 28, 2013 8:09:36 PM, Alan James <alanlindsayjames at yahoo.com> wrote
> Hi Joe,
> if you are meaning that your generator is removed for the dive & left
> floating on the surface, then wouldn't it be easier & more economical
> to have a small inflatable with an outboard motor ( which is designed for 
> the environment), to tow the sub.
> Or a straight outboard motor instead of a generator on the sub.
> Could be hard going removing a generator or motor & attaching again
> in poor conditions.
> Alan
> 
> From: Joe Perkel <josephperkel at yahoo.com>
> To: Personal Submersibles General Discussion <personal_submersibles at psubs.org> 
> Sent: Thursday, November 28, 2013 3:43 PM
> Subject: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Surface Transit and power requirements
> 
> 
> I have a question on my mind that I’d like to pose for ideas. It concerns primary propulsion and the potential use of an electric golf cart motor for long distance surface transit say in the order of 4 to 5 miles one way.
>  
> What I am thinking is the use of a motor pod ahead of a moveable rudder Delta style. If one were to use say a 5hp motor where 2-3 hp is required, wouldn’t the larger motor be less taxed and run cooler, turn a larger prop,  be more reliable long term, etc?
> As for power drain, what if a portable Honda generator could ride temporarily on deck behind the sail in a purpose built ventilated enclosure that is quick release removable. Could this not be connected to a purpose built electrical thru hull feeding the main bus?
> My goals here are simple.
> 1)      The ability to travel to relative distant dive sites with relative ease
> 2)      Reducing a surface support requirement to a small semi-rigid inflatable.
> 3)      The ability to satisfy power drain and on site recharge capability without rafting at sea.
> 4)      Eliminating the complexity and costs associated with inboard diesel propulsion.
> Ideas / thoughts?
> Joe
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