[PSUBS-MAILIST] New submarine

Vance Bradley VBra676539 at AOL.com
Tue Apr 8 22:08:55 EDT 2014


He said in an interview that Idabel cost $125,000.

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> On Apr 8, 2014, at 10:03 PM, Douglas Suhr <spiritofcalypso at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Scott, I have no experience with any large pressure chambers, but I am sure you are talking well into the thousands (perhaps $15,000 to $35,000) depending on how long it takes to set up the required tests (and perform them). 
> 
> I truly admire your ambition, but like Hank suggested, 1000 feet may be a better 2nd sub goal. If I were planning to go beyond 1000 feet, I would be looking to Nuytco, SeaMagine or Triton but of course cost is then a major issue again. Does anyone know about how much Karl spent building Idabel? ~ Douglas S. 
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>> On Tue, Apr 8, 2014 at 7:48 PM, swaters <swaters at waters-ks.com> wrote:
>> Any idea as to the cost of pressure testing that kind of pressure? 
>> Also, I am not a engineer, but am fairly good at designing things in my head. If I designed this in CAD, does psubs have a good way of sharing CAD files for who ever would like too look at my designs and bounce ideas off of? 
>> I would love for this project to be a way for psubs to increase overall psubs knowledge of cutting edge and affordable solutions for things like sonar and manipulator arms and things.
>> Thanks,
>> Scott Waters
>> 
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>> Vance Bradley <VBra676539 at AOL.com> wrote:
>> Maryland and California (Navy) and Texas (southwest research).
>> Vance
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>>> On Apr 8, 2014, at 7:14 PM, swaters <swaters at waters-ks.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> So is the design of crush depth of 1750m and test to 1250m the idea? Next question is where can you find a pressure chamber that has 1670psi capability?
>>> Thanks,
>>> Scott Waters
>>> 
>>> 
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>>> Alan James <alanlindsayjames at yahoo.com> wrote:
>>> Scott,
>>> in general people design their boats with a crush depth of
>>> twice their operating depth, then test them to 1.25 or 1.5 x
>>> there proposed maximum operating depth.
>>> So design to 2000 meters & test it to 1250 meters.
>>> Alan
>>> 
>>> From: swaters <swaters at waters-ks.com>
>>> To: personal_submersibles at psubs.org 
>>> Sent: Tuesday, April 8, 2014 4:29 PM
>>> Subject: [PSUBS-MAILIST] New submarine
>>> 
>>> I am playing with the idea of building another submarine. Here is what I am thinking.
>>> 1) This project needs to be as challenging as the same amount of difficulty as it was to build my first submarine
>>> 2) I want to have lots of bottom time with my K-350 to learn what needs to be improved on in design and ability.
>>> 3) Learn to use CAD 
>>> 4) Project will take 5-7 years to complete
>>> 
>>> My initial goals are
>>> 1) Hold 3 people
>>> 2) Weigh 10,500lbs or less
>>> 3) Depth of 3,300 feet (1000m)
>>> 4) Have a very effective range of abilities such as a good manipulator arm and tooling
>>> 5) Have a wide veiwing maybe a acylic dome front
>>> 
>>> Ok, shoot holes in the ideas. What will be the main challenges to overcome? What complications am I not considering?
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> Scott Waters
>>> 
>>> 
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