[PSUBS-MAILIST] New submarine

Wed Apr 9 07:06:34 EDT 2014

Scott,
Have a look at this. As long as your a student of something, somewhere,
your ok.  Join a local tiddlywinks class or something.

http://www.autodesk.com/education/free-software/inventor-professional
This is not too difficult to use.
Regards
James

On 9 April 2014 04:09, swaters <swaters at waters-ks.com> wrote:

>  I will do the work myself, and not hire it out professionally. I built
> my K-350 and it was $40,000 after all the gadgets were put in and I hired
> out alot of work because I didn't know how to do it at the time. I did a
> comparative analysis on weight to dollar. My K-350 at $40,000 and 4,500 lbs
> is comparative ofa 10,500 lb sub would be $93,333 if you add more for
> acrylic costs my rough math seems to jive with the $125,000.
>  Thanks,
> Scott Waters
>
>
>
>
>  Sent from my U.S. Cellular(c) Smartphone
>
>  hank pronk <hanker_20032000 at yahoo.ca> wrote:
>  I think that is a dream guys, 125K no way.  Not if it is a professional
> build, and it has to be.  If you do it right you can spend that to do 1,000
> feet.
> Hank
>   On Tuesday, April 8, 2014 8:25:15 PM, Douglas Suhr <
> spiritofcalypso at gmail.com> wrote:
>   Wow! $125K for 2500 - 3000 feet? That's some serious dollar-to-fathom
> value!
>
>
> On Tue, Apr 8, 2014 at 10:14 PM, swaters <swaters at waters-ks.com> wrote:
>
>  $125,000 is reachable for me. Sounds like this could be a reality.
>  Thanks,
> Scott Waters
>
>
>
>
>  Sent from my U.S. Cellular(c) Smartphone
>
> Vance Bradley <VBra676539 at AOL.com> wrote:
>  He said in an interview that Idabel cost $125,000.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Apr 8, 2014, at 10:03 PM, Douglas Suhr <spiritofcalypso at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>   Scott, I have no experience with any large pressure chambers, but I am
> sure you are talking well into the thousands (perhaps $15,000 to $35,000)
> depending on how long it takes to set up the required tests (and perform
> them).
>
> I truly admire your ambition, but like Hank suggested, 1000 feet may be a
> better 2nd sub goal. If I were planning to go beyond 1000 feet, I would be
> looking to Nuytco, SeaMagine or Triton but of course cost is then a major
> issue again. Does anyone know about how much Karl spent building Idabel? ~
> Douglas S.
>
>
>  On Tue, Apr 8, 2014 at 7:48 PM, swaters <swaters at waters-ks.com> wrote:
>
>  Any idea as to the cost of pressure testing that kind of pressure?
> Also, I am not a engineer, but am fairly good at designing things in my
> head. If I designed this in CAD, does psubs have a good way of sharing CAD
> files for who ever would like too look at my designs and bounce ideas off
> of?
> I would love for this project to be a way for psubs to increase overall
> psubs knowledge of cutting edge and affordable solutions for things like
> sonar and manipulator arms and things.
>  Thanks,
> Scott Waters
>
>
>
>
>  Sent from my U.S. Cellular(c) Smartphone
>
>  Vance Bradley <VBra676539 at AOL.com> wrote:
> Maryland and California (Navy) and Texas (southwest research).
> Vance
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Apr 8, 2014, at 7:14 PM, swaters <swaters at waters-ks.com> wrote:
>
>   So is the design of crush depth of 1750m and test to 1250m the idea?
> Next question is where can you find a pressure chamber that has 1670psi
> capability?
>  Thanks,
> Scott Waters
>
>
>
>
>  Sent from my U.S. Cellular(c) Smartphone
>
> Alan James <alanlindsayjames at yahoo.com> wrote:
>  Scott,
> in general people design their boats with a crush depth of
> twice their operating depth, then test them to 1.25 or 1.5 x
> there proposed maximum operating depth.
> So design to 2000 meters & test it to 1250 meters.
> Alan
>
>   *From:* swaters <swaters at waters-ks.com>
> *To:* personal_submersibles at psubs.org
> *Sent:* Tuesday, April 8, 2014 4:29 PM
> *Subject:* [PSUBS-MAILIST] New submarine
>
>   I am playing with the idea of building another submarine. Here is what
> I am thinking.
> 1) This project needs to be as challenging as the same amount of
> difficulty as it was to build my first submarine
> 2) I want to have lots of bottom time with my K-350 to learn what needs to
> be improved on in design and ability.
> 3) Learn to use CAD
> 4) Project will take 5-7 years to complete
>
>  My initial goals are
> 1) Hold 3 people
> 2) Weigh 10,500lbs or less
> 3) Depth of 3,300 feet (1000m)
> 4) Have a very effective range of abilities such as a good manipulator arm
> and tooling
>  5) Have a wide veiwing maybe a acylic dome front
>
> Ok, shoot holes in the ideas. What will be the main challenges to
> overcome? What complications am I not considering?
>
>  Thanks,
> Scott Waters
>
>
>
>
>
>
>  Sent from my U.S. Cellular(c) Smartphone
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