[PSUBS-MAILIST] Diver propulsion vehicle project

vbra676539 at aol.com vbra676539 at aol.com
Thu Jan 23 17:05:46 EST 2014


Thanks Jon. It looks to me that this could be a good alternative for the home builder. Any idea of the bollard pull your unit will produce? Even at Norwegian prices, I think you could probably build something like I'm thinking about for a thousand dollars--or 6000 kroner, whichever comes first.
Vance



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From: Jon Eide Pettersen <jon at pettersen-prod.com>
To: Personal Submersibles General Discussion <personal_submersibles at psubs.org>
Sent: Thu, Jan 23, 2014 4:24 pm
Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Diver propulsion vehicle project


          
    Vance,
    The motor and controller was 244$ including shipping, duct and    shroud was around 200$ including shipping and import fee. Magnets,    bearings and sensors were around 100$ in total I think. Batteries    will be around 125$, and I spent 80$ on delrin. The tube which is    the main body was kindly donated from a business that liked my    project, and the aluminium stock I was lucky have left over from a    previous project. Keep in mind that Norway is quite expensive so    some of the parts are propably cheaper elsewhere. Anyway, I think a    total of 750$ sounds right.
    
    The motor is probably intented for some kind of industrial use, as    it is very heavy and thick-walled. Here is a thread from    endless-sphere with some pics and testing of the 800w edition:http://endless-sphere.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=30&t=45443&sid=c3f78cf1221ba9251d90820d229764e1
    
    - Jon
    
    
    
Den 23.01.2014 20:10, skrev      vbra676539 at aol.com:
    
    
Jon,        
Might as well ask.            What's your total investment going to be? This looks like a            pretty good experimental option for subs, at the very least.            I'm with you on the motors. It will be interesting to see            just how tough they are.
        
Vance
          
          
          
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            From: Jon Eide Pettersen <jon at pettersen-prod.com>
            To: Personal Submersibles General Discussion            <personal_submersibles at psubs.org>
            Sent: Thu, Jan 23, 2014 1:24 pm
            Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Diver propulsion vehicle            project
            
            
              
 Thanks for the kind words!
                
                The nozzle/shroud has an inside diameter of around 303mm                at the narrowest. Both the nozzle and the prop are                replacement parts for the commercial DPVs made by                dive-xtras. The shroud cost 70.50$, while the propeller                kit is 67$. I bought it directly from dive-x here: http://www.dive-xtras.com/cart/pc/viewPrd.asp?idproduct=42&idcategory=7.                
                
                A nice feature with the propeller is that it has                variable pitch, and that the blades can be replaced                individually. However, the blades are plastic and I'm                not sure how well they would survive an impact or                entanglement. The scooters from dive-x have a clutch to                save the prop in case this happens. Here is a drawing of                the propeller assembly used by dive-x:                http://www.dive-xtras.com/pages/support/diagrams/linedrawings/propellerassembly.pdf
                
                I bought the motor from www.goldenmotor.com.                I'm not impressed by the build quality, but it was very                cheap and hopefully it will work. They also have 650w                and 800w editions of the same motor, perhaps this would                be suitable for use in a submersible?                http://www.goldenmotor.com/BLDC%20Motors%20for%20Light%20Weight%20Trikes.jpg
                
                
                - Jon
                
                
                
Den 23.01.2014 16:16, skrev                  vbra676539 at aol.com:
                
                
And barring                      that, how about a 36 volt 3/4 hp PM motor, housing                      and drive? It would be sweet to cook something DIY                      up that could be built by a competent home                      machinist.                    
Vance
                      
                      
                      
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                        From: Alec Smyth <alecsmyth at gmail.com>
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                        Sent: Thu, Jan 23, 2014 9:10 am
                        Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Diver propulsion                        vehicle project
                        
                        
                          
Hi Jon,                            

                            
                            
Welcome! That is a nicely documented                              project, and very timely since we recently                              had threads about kort nozzles and                              magnetic couplers. Quick question... could                              you tell me what diameter that nozzle (aka                              shroud) is and how much it and the prop                              cost? I'm curious about adapting those to                              trolling motors.
                            

                            
                            

                            
                            
Best,
                            

                              Alec
                          
                          

                            
                            
On Thu, Jan 23,                              2014 at 8:47 AM, Jon Eide Pettersen <jon at pettersen-prod.com>                              wrote:
                              
Hi!
                                
                                I'm currently designing and building a                                diver propulsion vehicle with a                                magnetically coupled drive. I will use a                                48v 500w BLDC motor intended for                                electric trikes, powered by 4 SLA                                batteries coupled in series.
                                
                                I'm posting my progress at my personal                                website, http://pettersen-prod.com/project/dpv/index.html.                                
                                
                                Anyway, hope you find this interesting!                                I hope to build a submersible in the                                future, but this will suffice until I                                have the funding and knowledge needed :)
                                
                                
                                Regards, 
                                Jon Eide Pettersen
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