[PSUBS-MAILIST] insurance

[Joe Perkel]

The premise behind that notion is "Failure to warn" likely a basic premise worldwide. That is why amateur aircraft are placarded as such. 

I've always suspected that requirement to be more of a public service announcement than a disclaimer.

Joe

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On Mar 27, 2014, at 4:34 PM, "Emile van Essen" <emile at airesearch.nl> wrote:

> “But anyway passenger have to sign a paper that a submarine is a potential dangerous machine and they take the trip on there own risk.”
>  
> Doing this makes no sense. If a accident is related to bad safety precautions or a big mistake by the pilot, you have a problem anyway..
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> Regards, Emile
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> Van: Personal_Submersibles [mailto:personal_submersibles-bounces at psubs.org] Namens "Carsten Standfuß "
> Verzonden: donderdag 27 maart 2014 18:11
> Aan: Personal Submersibles General Discussion
> Onderwerp: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] insurance
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> All SL classe subs have a insurance. 
> 
> Nessesary if you try to carry passengers for money. 
> 
> The lawer of the children of a 90 years old passenger with a deadly heardattack on his birthday travel
> in your sub will strip you to nothing if you have no insurance. 
> 
> Euronaut has no class but a P&I insurance due to the owners good network in the shipbuilding industry. 
> And maybe due to the fact that the owner work as naval architect and time to time for a classification society..
> But anyway passenger have to sign a paper that a submarine is a potential dangerous machine and they take the trip on there own risk. 
> 
> But why you want to insure? The insurance will only cover the damage the sub do to others. 
> I dont think that you sub will do major damage to others. Such a minimum insurance will cost you about 4000-5000 USD a year. 
> A full insurance in all directions will cost you maybe 10 times more. 
> 
> And if teh sub sinks it will be much cheaper if you raise it by yourself. Just in case you survife.. 
> 
> For transport on a road you can insure the boat just as cargo or Motorboat. 
> The insurance will not see a special risk in that. And for storage it should be the same. 
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> vbr Carsten
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> "hank pronk" <hanker_20032000 at yahoo.ca> schrieb:
> I have made an attempt to buy insurance for my sub.  I contacted my insurance broker that I deal with for my business as well as my daughter who is an insurance broker.  It is not possible unless the sub is certified.  I was only looking for insurance to cover loss during storage and during transport.  I was only looking for a set amount to cover my actual costs. 
> My next attempt will be adding cargo insurance through my business and maybe my home insurance can be modified.
> Does anyone have insurance on a sub here?
> Hank
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