[PSUBS-MAILIST] German mini sub

Wed May 7 17:00:00 EDT 2014

Alec this is maybe a German..

And was original a mine hunter bouy (Tiefendrachen or Scherschwimmer) 
from the 60-70ies - some of them have this kind of boltet skegs/fins. 
To easy remove damage fins. 

http://www.7tes-msg.de/museumsschiff/dresden-april-2009/raeum-1.jpg

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/56/Lindau-Klasse_Heck_mit_Winden.JPG

Clear the sub was not a navy device - the interior outfitting indicate
in all details a low level private build. 

vbr Carsten

"Alec Smyth via Personal_Submersibles" <personal_submersibles at psubs.org>
schrieb: 
A very pretty design as well. I like the purity of that teardrop shape,
which seems so hard to fabricate. Very odd to have what apparently is a
second motor in the bow, although missing a prop now. But taking a
second look I notice the rivets visible at the stern, plus the snorkel.
Hmmm... maybe this thing is real after all.

On Wed, May 7, 2014 at 3:05 PM, Douglas Suhr via Personal_Submersibles
<personal_submersibles at psubs.org> wrote:

Even if the information is incorrect, it's still an interesting find.
Thanks Alan. ~ Douglas S.  

On Wed, May 7, 2014 at 3:03 PM, Joe Perkel via Personal_Submersibles
<personal_submersibles at psubs.org> wrote:

I find the claims dubious as well. Particularly since I've been recently
delving into WWII German mini sub technology. 

As Alec states, what was the mission? 

Joe

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On May 7, 2014, at 2:41 PM, Alec Smyth via Personal_Submersibles
<personal_submersibles at psubs.org> wrote:

Historically I also find it also somewhat surprising (I'm originally
from Argentina). The Argentine army was based on the German army, with
similar uniforms, Mauser rifles, etc. But the Argentine navy was based
on the Royal Navy and typically had equipment of UK or US origin. The
year 1940 would be sort of a tough one to send anything military from
Germany to Argentina. I also wonder if this was really a navy boat at
all, what its mission might have been - it does not appear to be any
more threatening than a K-250, which is to say not a danger to anything
whatsoever. Given Carsten's comprehensive records and knowledge of
German subs large and small, I look forward to his opinion.

Now, having said all that, when I was a teenager accompanying my older
brother to his flying lessons, there was a very real and pristine Me-109
two-seat trainer in the hangar of the our local grass-strip airfield.

Best,

Alec

On Wed, May 7, 2014 at 2:16 PM, Emile van Essen via
Personal_Submersibles <personal_submersibles at psubs.org> wrote:

I doubt it is a sub from 1938.

The Delphin comes the closest but was developed in 1944. And none of the
3
prototypes still exists..
If I am right it is far to expensive..

Emile

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Onderwerp: [PSUBS-MAILIST] German mini sub

Came across this mini sub for sale.
It resembles the R300, with Emile's acrylic sail on it.
http://bronzecannons.net/submarine.html
Alan

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